yay, yoav! Finally this is getting somewhere, you've made some good points.
Stable systems have negative feedback loops. In social systems, I believe the stasis reached is called a compromise, and I finally feel like we're getting to one.
I'll leave it to Bob to do a line-by-line analysis, but I think most of the vitriol for your position was due to statements like:
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Originally Posted by yoav
you can get kicked out of university for writing an essay that's simliar to what someone else wrote even if you thought of it by yourself because our thoughts are restricted by the man, you're not free to express your thoughts. ideas are intangible and have no intrinsic value.
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Stuff like that, while metaphysically true, imply that you don't believe in copyrights. I suppose Bob and I fear the consequences of that sort of deconstructionism. While it is the absolute truth, it fucks up Capitalistic systems.
(And if you're a good student, no legitimate university will kick you out without giving you a fair chance to prove the originality of your work.)
The current anti-consumerist laws are purely caused by business protecting its interest, which it felt was eroded by people eschewing the
purchase of music, to simply 'borrowing' a copy online.
ie.
FILE SHARING CAME FIRST, NOT THE DMCA.
Both of us are idealistic.
In your view, by sharing digital content, artist exposure would increase, resulting in a net benefit to the artist.
In my view, if we all agree that inappropriately licensed digital content should not be shared, all draconian laws would be lifted.
I truly believe the industry is overreacting
purely because people download CDs and DVDs with ABSOLUTELY NO INTENTION of purchasing them.
They are satisfied with the downloaded copy.
It provides them with all the satisfaction that a purchased copy would provide.
You and I are probably not those individuals, but by rah-rah'ing file sharing, little children will feel better about decimating a potential market.
The idea of ownership of art by the consumer is only viable if the consumer does not share said art widely.
How do you define 'widely'?
How do you pick an age of consent?
Compromise.