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Originally Posted by yoav
if you own the art, why does paying for the rights to watch a movie in a movie theatre not give you the rights to the art?
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This part was already explained. You watching a film in a theater does not give you license to take and redistribute the film. The theater has rented the film from the studio with the agreement that they will only show it in that venue, for certain periods. If they don't follow their contracts with the studios, they lose their rights to show those films and get sued big time for breach of contract.
If you want a better idea of this, when films first came out, filmhouse managers would edit films as they wanted to by cutting out of the filmstrips parts of the movies they personally deemed inappropriate. When the first film censorship boards came up, they put together legislation that caused that to happen. Such laws went into place also preventing filmhouse managers from further editing films because they personally didn't like the content. If such laws were not in place, the same editing would be happening today. That would be a patron of the theater having the rights to the art.
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Originally Posted by yoav
under your model can you take a video camera into a movie theatre if you're only using the copy for your own personal use?
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You already know the answer to that, but you are dodging it. You didn't buy the film yourself, you rented the seat in the theater.
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Originally Posted by yoav
what are the limits of owning art? if i purchase a cd, can i play it for my friends where 2 of the 3 present do not own a copy of the art being played? what gives them the right to the art?
what if one of my friends listening pulls out their cell phone and makes an exact copy using the microphone to record the song at better than cd quality, which he then uses for his own personal use? is he breaking the law? am i breaking the law?
under your model is playing the same cd, in my driveway while i sit on my porch breaking the law?
what if 5 of my neighbours gather and listen to it without them owning the art being played?
what if 20 gather and i don't even know some of them?
what if someone pulls out their cell phone and makes an exact copy for their own personal use? did that person steal? did that person steal from me or the artist?
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Now you're being absurd. There are expectations that the purchase of an individual CD is being done so for the personal use of the purchaser. Such personal use includes home entertainment where more than one person is listening to it. If your friends are copying the songs onto their cell phones, then they are the bastard thieves, not you. You are within your rights to use the art you purchased. There is a difference between playing something for yourself and uploading for everyone to take. If I pay for a movie on demand, and you are watching it with me, neither one of us are breaking the law because the art was paid for and consumed in the home - what it was meant for. If you are standing in my window with a camcorder and recording the movie to be uploaded, then you are the thief.
Yoav, you have made some interesting points, but the fact that you don't see this is beyond bizarre to me.