[Cretaceous Bob]

Originally Posted by Medium Brumski

Your fantasies aren't third person, but the porn you're into is, and porn is about fantasy. Strange that you say your imagination isn't broken, yet you can't imagine yourself in the position of the dude on the screen doing the fucking, that's why I don't understand you.

Imagination adds, it doesn't take things out.

You're doing a weird sort of gymnastics here where you're trying to group my porn in with yours, and you do so by heavily contorting the wording of my post. I said quite clearly that people's fantasies do not involve a third person view of themselves, and that is not something that is either in my fantasies nor my porn.

And how immensely bizarre is it that a straight male can't understand someone who doesn't want penis in his porn? It seems like this whole country has an immensely contradictory definition of heterosexuality. If I like penis, I'm gay. But if I don't like penis, I'm weird. There's some serious issues there. Evidently the secret nobody says is that "heterosexual" means "likes to look at men but doesn't do anything with them".

Originally Posted by Medium Brumski

And you did take out more then one sentence, most of it wasn't pertaining to the point you were making, but you did take out the part where I said I don't need a penis shot, which is what you seem to think guys do need if there is a male actor present.

You really have trouble reading.

Originally Posted by Medium Brumski

Are we the same sexuality, assuming that sexuality is only divided into gay, bi or straight, then yes we are. I'm straight and I'm assuming you are to. Do I find men sexually repulsive? I suppose I do,

That is what is known as a lie.

Originally Posted by Medium Brumski

but I also find alot of women sexually repulsive.

Dodge.

Originally Posted by Medium Brumski

However I don't find the male form in general repulsive, but I've probably spent to much time on the farm and in a science lab to find alot of things repulsive.

Distortion of context.

Originally Posted by Medium Brumski

Cool beans indeed, just watch your assertions when coming to matters that tend to have a gray area.

My assertion is that you are more fond of penises than me, and I don't think there's anything inaccurate about that whatsoever.

"Gray area" is precisely what I'm talking about. Gray is a midpoint on a spectrum between black and white. Sexuality is generally defined by attraction to genders, and generally the extremes of that spectrum involve preferring one gender to the point of completely excluding the other. You are not an extreme, you are a gray area. This is what I'm saying.

Originally Posted by hayroob

I think that's just your bag. It's not a hetero/homo/other thing.

I don't know how this isn't. I don't understand how penises stop being penises the minute a woman is in the frame.

Originally Posted by hayroob

You find a cock in your porn "repulsive", I find them a plus. If you took that sentence in isolation I sound a little out there, but since what I'm talking about is a cock entering a woman, I think I'm square. There's a million things that each and every one of us would love in porn that many others wouldn't be into at all and might even find repulsive, but thats about sexuality in a much broader sense.

Whatever turns you on and doesn't hurt anybody else is what you should go with and don't get caught up thinking that you gotta draw lines on something gray.

P.S. Medium Brumski great post.

See, this all just sounds like complete bullshit. No straight male wants to address the question of "If you're straight, what am I, because I refuse to be identified by a word you all have taken?"

My point is that, in the case of males, heterosexuality is the furthest extreme to describe sexual attraction to women we've come up with, so how is it possible that my complete distaste for men puts me at odds with the majority of that group?

You guys want to keep saying "gray area", my point is most everybody is gray area, and you need to give me the term for an extreme endpoint back. Your spectrum starts at gray and goes to white. There can't be any black, because I'd be over there and you guys would still be gray and we can't have that, can we?

Originally Posted by stulagu

This is the statement Bob that I think is confusing everyone. I think it is fairly clear that by saying you agree with Junk 100% on this (right after he said he thinks 98% of guys are secretly gay and other comments) and then talk about true heterosexuality, you are asserting that if you like to see another guy in porn, you aren't 100% straight.

That's more or less what I'm saying.

Or at least that if 100% straight involves wanting some dick in your porn, what the fuck does that make me?

Originally Posted by stulagu

I love seeing girl/guy action in regular tv or porn...the rough scene from Rome is one of my favorites of all time, yet I don't necessarily like it that rough. But MAN that is a turn on to watch. What does that make me? That I like to see the girl AND some passionate aggression? I'm a closeted lesbian into S&M?

It means you can see something sexually attractive in S&M and women, even if you don't enjoy them yourself. This is what I'm saying. Men who want dicks in porn find something sexually attractive in males.

Really, I pretty much have to define myself as a male lesbian because straight males refuse to let "straight male" mean "finds nothing sexually attractive about penises and in fact is wholly against penises in general".