Introduce a Song You Like aka McNally vs. Ayn

[motownguy]

Interesting.

McNally and Ayn, do you guys realize that you aren't even talking to each other? You're speaking two completely different emotional languages. McNally, you could not possibly be pushing her away any harder, but obviously because you are completely scared to become emotionally invested. Ayn, you are chasing a fairytale senario without being able to articulate the storyline. Then, right in the middle of the podcast, a car wreck happens. What a perfectly timed analogy for all of us listening in.

Chemda, by the way, the couple of questions that you got in in the first 45 minutes were totally on target from my point of view. You just sold one relationship book.

Keith, nice music library. Ayces.

[Jonny Face]

This reminded me of every argument Ive ever had with a girlfriend which resulted in just frustration and confusion, rather than any kind of resolution.I am so glad to hear I am not the only guy that goes through this with chicks!It's always the girl talking about some abstract problem, the guy not understanding what the girl is on about, and then the girl not helping him at all because either a)he has to figure things out on his own, or b)she has apparently told him before, and god forbid she ever explain anything twice.I do think McNally was a bit too stand-offish, but I totally feel his pain.Men and women just think so differently at times, and this is a prime example.Ayn just keeps moving the goalposts, and it's confusing to listen to, let alone srgue with!

[picard102]

Best Ham Radio Yet.

[Grapist]

Wow, I am actually on McNalley's side here. You cannot count on someone else to "fix" your issues. If you don't have the confidence to see these qualities within yourself or you will never completely believe someone telling you. You will want more, it will push the other away.

[Skyler]

Best backstage show ever. I could not stop laughing at the awesome levels of awkward. Absolutely hilarious.

[BlinkChic182MN]

[quote=blu;506190]I hate that I'm on McNally side after listening to this. But he was in the right to stand up for himself (and actually have a good point). Ayn needs the impossible, and unrealistic. Everything is attention seeking. QUOTE]

I compleatly agree. The points she was making seemed ridiculous, like no matter what McNally does it wont be good enough. But girls that fight with there mates in this passive agressive way can never be satisfied. Im not saying its all her, but I feel the reason they fight is mainly her. She seems like a challenging/strong women who when paired up with someone opposite can cause issues. I liked this backstage show even though it made my insides twist with akwardnes, gave real indepth look into a difficult relationship.

[punk'n]

It seemed like Chemda had a really good point when she mentioned that McNally will never be able to fix anything if Ayn can't articulate what she wants. All I heard from her was whining and I think McNally was right up until when he admitted that he can't totally give himself to her because he's leaving. Fuck that, those two are already too emotionally invested for him to pull that card.

Either way, I think Keith and Chemda are going to get to add these 2 to their list of couples they helped break up. Yay for K&C's vampire relationship!

[Grapist]

Originally Posted by punk'n

It seemed like Chemda had a really good point when she mentioned that McNally will never be able to fix anything if Ayn can't articulate what she wants. All I heard from her was whining and I think McNally was right up until when he admitted that he can't totally give himself to her because he's leaving. Fuck that, those two are already too emotionally invested for him to pull that card.

Either way, I think Keith and Chemda are going to get to add these 2 to their list of couples they helped break up. Yay for K&C's vampire relationship!

These two need to break up. McNalley has all but said he has given everything he can and in that situation the only logical conclusion is to end the relationship. He's already decided he just hasn't really come to terms with it. Interestingly, people seem to have had awkward feelings throughout this backstage. I could relate with EVERYTHING! Even if she articulates herself better, it is not in anyway McNalley's job to help her with her issues. It's important to note that there is a difference between someone being there for you emotionally, and putting your emotional issues onto someone. She's doing the latter and is in the wrong for doing so. Even my ex, 2 years afterwards, admitted this to me.

[DarkKnightJared]

Wow. That was just an explosion of awkward and pain, only briefly comforted by Keith's usage of shitty hair metal.

As for who "won" the argument, I think both had problems with their argument, but McNally's problem of emotional detachment and unwillingness to find out what he can do better can't really be fixed when Ayn's problem is that she's unable to articulate better as to what she wants, as Chemda mentioned. Ultimately, no real winner to this battle, except probably Keith and Chemda, who's sucked the life out of yet another relationship.

[punk'n]

Originally Posted by DarkKnightJared

Wow. That was just an explosion of awkward and pain, only briefly comforted by Keith's usage of shitty hair metal.

As for who "won" the argument, I think both had problems with their argument, but McNally's problem of emotional detachment and unwillingness to find out what he can do better can't really be fixed when Ayn's problem is that she's unable to articulate better as to what she wants, as Chemda mentioned. Ultimately, no real winner to this battle, except probably Keith and Chemda, who's sucked the life out of yet another relationship.

Pssst! Great minds think alike....

(see a few posts up)