15: Salvia

John Galt · 06-29-2009, 04:00 PM

just to throw this one the pile ...

DJ Trashy · 07-18-2009, 11:04 PM

I had forgotten about this thread, but the video did enter my thoughts recently. I've been reading a book about the history of acid, the CIA, etc. It all sounded so harmless and innocent, such fun. Pretty colors, lots of laughter. So we picked up some salvia, grabbed a mini-bong while we were at it.

Got set, closed the door to the TV room, ready to go. 1 gram of 10X - put just enough in the bowl for a good hit. Wife started the camcorder, I lit it up and took it all in, held it, blew it out. And then I departed the room.

No, I almost literally left the room. First I lay down, started doing McNally's little palsied arm motions. Then I made noises, tried to get out of the recliner, pulled a lamp over. My wife tried holding me, calming me down. I screamed "help me" a couple of times, went for the door, ran into the TV, fell into some weights in the corner, tried climbing over the recliner through the wall, knocked the tripod over. The whole time the wife is trying to keep me from hurting myself and breaking shit and talking to me. Finally I slumped on the floor next to the recliner and just breathed hard for awhile.

Of course I didn't know any of this was going on, because I was completely, totally unaware of any sight or sound in the room. In my mind I was escaping a series of large wheels crashing through the walls trying to run over me, and also collapsing, metal multi-colored walls trying to suck me down into somewhere horrible. I can't describe it any better than that. And then I saw the floor, and the chair, and slowly I realized where I was. And then I remembered - oh yeah, salvia, trip, I'm coming out of it, it isn't real, OH MY GOD IT ISN'T REAL!!! I was so glad I almost cried. But then I realized that only the left side of my vision and hearing were free, the evil vision was still in charge of the right side and I was afraid if I breathed too hard the chemicals would come back and take me back to the scary place again.

One of my first thoughts was that this shit should abso-fucking-lutely be illegal. One hit, only 10X. I'm 48 and weigh 230 pounds. I had a nice full stomach (steak). All that and if I had been alone no telling what could have happened. As it is, I have a scrape on the top of my head and a large goose-egg on my shin.

So hey - my opinion has changed. You should think twice about this shit.

Me? I have sworn off all hallucinogenic substances forever. Been there, done that, got the scars to prove it. Dead fucking serious.

John Galt · 07-19-2009, 06:32 AM

Hallucinagens are definitely not for everyone.

Here's an interesting question, though ... when someone smokes pot in the US, is it a form of civil disobedience?

DJ Trashy · 07-19-2009, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by John Galt

Hallucinagens are definitely not for everyone.

So a certain percentage of the population is expected to have this sort of reaction to a basic salvia trip?

John Galt · 07-19-2009, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ Trashy

So a certain percentage of the population is expected to have this sort of reaction to a basic salvia trip?

I have no idea, frankly. I don't have any personal experience with salvia. I do know that 10x is just that, ten times the potency of the plant itself. I don't think that what you had was a "basic" salvia trip.

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Those leaves are prepared with extracts, term is often used to refer to various preparations derived from Salvia. Technically, in pharmacy and medicine the dictionary definition of an extract is: a solid preparation obtained by evaporating a solution of a drug. There is also such a thing as a fluid extract (or tincture), which is a concentrated liquid preparation containing a definite proportion of the active principles of a medicinal substance. The solvent usually used is ethyl alcohol or a mixture of ethyl alcohol and water. However various salvia preparations are often referred to as extracts.

The extracts increase the power of the leaf. An extract of salvia is made using a solvent such as ethanol or acetone. The solvent, which now contains dissolved extracted material, is evaporated onto salvia leaves, where the dissolved material is deposited. although technically it should be called 'extract fortified leaves'. Fortified leaves are usually smoked, although they may be active sublingually as well.

... www.enthosupply.com

I would venture a guess that your sample wasn't like a first time drinker having a margarita. It was more like a first time drinker having ten shots of tequila.

DJ Trashy · 07-19-2009, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by John Galt

I have no idea, frankly. I don't have any personal experience with salvia. I do know that 10x is just that, ten times the potency of the plant itself. I don't think that what you had was a "basic" salvia trip.

... www.enthosupply.com

I would venture a guess that your sample wasn't like a first time drinker having a margarita. It was more like a first time drinker having ten shots of tequila.

If I'm not mistaken the KATG video was done with 20X. Based on all my reading and video watching I had no reason to expect that I would completely lose touch with my surroundings and think I was dying.

It most definitely was *not* your basic salvia experience...

DJ Trashy · 07-20-2009, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Trashy

In my mind I was escaping a series of large wheels crashing through the walls trying to run over me, and also collapsing, metal multi-colored walls trying to suck me down into somewhere horrible. I can't describe it any better than that.

I forgot to mention one thing, which was the very loud, prominent sound associated with this hallucination. Basically it sounded kinda like what you would expect if you were sitting in a room with a metal wall and a large wheel began slowly rolling over/through said metal wall. Groaning, creaking, bending metal.

So yesterday I got home from the store, turned off the car, hit the button on the garage door opener, got out of the car.........and about halfway to the door to the house it hit me. The sound. It was the sound from my hallucination! I hit the button and raise and lowered the garage door again. The big spring groaning, the metal wheels rolling through the tracks, the METAL DOOR as big as a wall rolling up over the car. HOLY FUCK!

Salvia invaded my brain, shuffled through my memories and grabbed the every day act of opening the garage door and turned it into a fucking nightmare from hell! fuck me

Somehow I feel better knowing that it was something from inside my brain and not something from nowhere. But just a little better. I still hate that evil, EVIL dirty little plant.....

LArciniega · 10-18-2010, 07:42 AM

When I took salvia, my roommate had this big life sized Santa Clause in the living room, the kind you can buy from JC Penney. So high off salvia I realized that I'm in a secret train station and not sitting on a couch like I thought. So while waiting at the train station/couch, the Santa Clause starts doing magic from across the room and tries to prevent me from going to he Harry Potter school, so I punch his head off. After my high went away, I was being yelled at for ripping that Santa head off. Until this day I still say that he was an evil wizard and would have taken all of our souls in our sleep to hell.

McNally · 03-31-2011, 11:58 AM

Subject: Salvia Video Tracklist

Hey, McNally, I was watching the KATGtv salvia videos again, and I was wondering about what songs you used for the first video. I'm particularly interested in the song that plays as you hit the bong, and the one that plays when Keith Malley hits it. I figured you'd have it up somewhere that I couldn't find, but if you don't and don't feel like watching the vids again, that's cool.

Thanks,
Airon G.

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Fuck yeah I'll watch them again, those vids rule. I'm gonna toss this on the forums too, in case anyone's curious.

Let's see... for the KATGtv intro, it's a song called Windowlicker by Aphex Twin, I think... It's been awhile.

Intern Mike is Shake A Fist by Hot Chip.

Me hitting the bong is Reckoner by Radiohead. They used that song at the end of that movie Choke. It wasn't super great, but that song at the end worked really well.

Then it changes to some weird tribal music... I can't remember what the fuck that was. The Fuck Buttons? It was some band that Ayn liked. So, beats me on that one. Then some Super Mario music.

For Keith hitting the bong, it's Into The Galaxy by The Midnight Juggernauts. They also have a cool song called Road To Recovery.

Keith transitions into Ashes To Ashes by David Bowie once he starts losing it.

I don't know what Potatoe's song is. Maybe Black Moth Super Rainbow? That sounds like I'm making it up, but that's a real band. I was listening to a lot of weird stuff in New York that didn't really stick in my brain.

Let's check Newsy and Kyle's too, 'cause these are fun to watch.

Kyle starts with a House of Pain instrumental, sounds like something from their 3rd album. Then more David Bowie, a Space Oddity instrumental.

When he's describing the path, it's La Femme D'Argent by Air.

Newsy starts with a remix of the Mega Man 3 theme, probably from OCRemix.org. Then it's mostly silent because Newsy was too much to contain. Man, he got fucked up.

Sad Newsy is Rabbit In Your Headlights by Unkle, some kind of weird instrumental remix I found.

Salvia. A hell of a drug.

Ashley · 07-07-2011, 08:54 PM

I had an awful trip when I smoked salvia. I did it out of a bong and before I had even taken the entire hit, I was high as a fucking kite. Somehow I ended up laying down on the bed, which I don't remember doing. Then I had the movie Freddy Got Fingered on the tv. It was just the title screen so it keeps replaying the same thing over and over. Which ended up fucking with my head even more. While on the bed I imagined that I was in a tunnel type of structure. And waves of static where crashing on me. This was accompanied by a poking, tingling feeling; like needles. I then freaked out and had to turn the tv off. Which I couldn't do. Haha. I ran out into the living room and for some reason kept saying I can't handle this shirt. So then I was shirtless in the living room. I couldn't remember where I was, and I could barely recognize my boyfriend. He told me he was going to smoke the rest that was left in the bong and I started screaming at him, telling him to please don't. I didn't realize I was being loud, but he said I was yelling. Then I told him I needed to be alone in a dark place. After the high started going mellow, I took a ten minute nap, and when I woke up, it all felt like a dream. I barely remembered anything that happened. But the embarrassment of my boyfriend seeing me go fucking crazy still haunts me. Haha

ps, sorry i accidentally spelled Salvia wrong on the subject title. :/ My mistake.

07-18-2009, 11:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
DJ Trashy Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 870	I had forgotten about this thread, but the video did enter my thoughts recently. I've been reading a book about the history of acid, the CIA, etc. It all sounded so harmless and innocent, such fun. Pretty colors, lots of laughter. So we picked up some salvia, grabbed a mini-bong while we were at it. Got set, closed the door to the TV room, ready to go. 1 gram of 10X - put just enough in the bowl for a good hit. Wife started the camcorder, I lit it up and took it all in, held it, blew it out. And then I departed the room. No, I almost literally left the room. First I lay down, started doing McNally's little palsied arm motions. Then I made noises, tried to get out of the recliner, pulled a lamp over. My wife tried holding me, calming me down. I screamed "help me" a couple of times, went for the door, ran into the TV, fell into some weights in the corner, tried climbing over the recliner through the wall, knocked the tripod over. The whole time the wife is trying to keep me from hurting myself and breaking shit and talking to me. Finally I slumped on the floor next to the recliner and just breathed hard for awhile. Of course I didn't know any of this was going on, because I was completely, totally unaware of any sight or sound in the room. In my mind I was escaping a series of large wheels crashing through the walls trying to run over me, and also collapsing, metal multi-colored walls trying to suck me down into somewhere horrible. I can't describe it any better than that. And then I saw the floor, and the chair, and slowly I realized where I was. And then I remembered - oh yeah, salvia, trip, I'm coming out of it, it isn't real, OH MY GOD IT ISN'T REAL!!! I was so glad I almost cried. But then I realized that only the left side of my vision and hearing were free, the evil vision was still in charge of the right side and I was afraid if I breathed too hard the chemicals would come back and take me back to the scary place again. One of my first thoughts was that this shit should abso-fucking-lutely be illegal. One hit, only 10X. I'm 48 and weigh 230 pounds. I had a nice full stomach (steak). All that and if I had been alone no telling what could have happened. As it is, I have a scrape on the top of my head and a large goose-egg on my shin. So hey - my opinion has changed. You should think twice about this shit. Me? I have sworn off all hallucinogenic substances forever. Been there, done that, got the scars to prove it. Dead fucking serious.
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07-19-2009, 06:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
John Galt Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Nude Hampster Posts: 1,971	Hallucinagens are definitely not for everyone. Here's an interesting question, though ... when someone smokes pot in the US, is it a form of civil disobedience?
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10-18-2010, 07:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
LArciniega Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 153	When I took salvia, my roommate had this big life sized Santa Clause in the living room, the kind you can buy from JC Penney. So high off salvia I realized that I'm in a secret train station and not sitting on a couch like I thought. So while waiting at the train station/couch, the Santa Clause starts doing magic from across the room and tries to prevent me from going to he Harry Potter school, so I punch his head off. After my high went away, I was being yelled at for ripping that Santa head off. Until this day I still say that he was an evil wizard and would have taken all of our souls in our sleep to hell.
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03-31-2011, 11:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
McNally Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,314	Subject: Salvia Video Tracklist Hey, McNally, I was watching the KATGtv salvia videos again, and I was wondering about what songs you used for the first video. I'm particularly interested in the song that plays as you hit the bong, and the one that plays when Keith Malley hits it. I figured you'd have it up somewhere that I couldn't find, but if you don't and don't feel like watching the vids again, that's cool. Thanks, Airon G. ---- Fuck yeah I'll watch them again, those vids rule. I'm gonna toss this on the forums too, in case anyone's curious. Let's see... for the KATGtv intro, it's a song called Windowlicker by Aphex Twin, I think... It's been awhile. Intern Mike is Shake A Fist by Hot Chip. Me hitting the bong is Reckoner by Radiohead. They used that song at the end of that movie Choke. It wasn't super great, but that song at the end worked really well. Then it changes to some weird tribal music... I can't remember what the fuck that was. The Fuck Buttons? It was some band that Ayn liked. So, beats me on that one. Then some Super Mario music. For Keith hitting the bong, it's Into The Galaxy by The Midnight Juggernauts. They also have a cool song called Road To Recovery. Keith transitions into Ashes To Ashes by David Bowie once he starts losing it. I don't know what Potatoe's song is. Maybe Black Moth Super Rainbow? That sounds like I'm making it up, but that's a real band. I was listening to a lot of weird stuff in New York that didn't really stick in my brain. Let's check Newsy and Kyle's too, 'cause these are fun to watch. Kyle starts with a House of Pain instrumental, sounds like something from their 3rd album. Then more David Bowie, a Space Oddity instrumental. When he's describing the path, it's La Femme D'Argent by Air. Newsy starts with a remix of the Mega Man 3 theme, probably from OCRemix.org. Then it's mostly silent because Newsy was too much to contain. Man, he got fucked up. Sad Newsy is Rabbit In Your Headlights by Unkle, some kind of weird instrumental remix I found. Salvia. A hell of a drug.
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07-07-2011, 08:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ashley Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Utah, aka The Mormon State Posts: 2	Saliva I had an awful trip when I smoked salvia. I did it out of a bong and before I had even taken the entire hit, I was high as a fucking kite. Somehow I ended up laying down on the bed, which I don't remember doing. Then I had the movie Freddy Got Fingered on the tv. It was just the title screen so it keeps replaying the same thing over and over. Which ended up fucking with my head even more. While on the bed I imagined that I was in a tunnel type of structure. And waves of static where crashing on me. This was accompanied by a poking, tingling feeling; like needles. I then freaked out and had to turn the tv off. Which I couldn't do. Haha. I ran out into the living room and for some reason kept saying I can't handle this shirt. So then I was shirtless in the living room. I couldn't remember where I was, and I could barely recognize my boyfriend. He told me he was going to smoke the rest that was left in the bong and I started screaming at him, telling him to please don't. I didn't realize I was being loud, but he said I was yelling. Then I told him I needed to be alone in a dark place. After the high started going mellow, I took a ten minute nap, and when I woke up, it all felt like a dream. I barely remembered anything that happened. But the embarrassment of my boyfriend seeing me go fucking crazy still haunts me. Haha ps, sorry i accidentally spelled Salvia wrong on the subject title. :/ My mistake. DJ Trashy likes this. Last edited by Ashley; 07-07-2011 at 08:56 PM. Reason: extra comment
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