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I do not oppose agreement towards the antithesis of disagreement towards the direction of your statement.
What the fuck am I doing???? Matching wordplay with Myq???? I may as well challenge Satan to an arse pitchforking contest!!! Or, given the nature of this thread, challenge Stan to an arse... etc etc |
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08-09-2013, 04:29 PM | #182 (permalink) |
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I don't see it as a negative though. At this point there is absolutely no scientific reason for the big bang, nor can something (time, space, matter) be created from nothing.
I'm not referring to evolution or anything like that because evolution itself is an ongoing constant filled with constant variables, I'm referring to what created the absolute beginning. As a space science dork, in my mind that's "proof enough" that something had to create it. Science hasn't either proven or disproven a creator. Until it does, if ever, I believe that some sort of divine creator is behind it. I linked this earlier in the thread - did you happen to watch it? |
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No credible cosmologist is saying something is created from nothing. Those are your words. The scientific understanding is that something can never be nothing. Energy changes form but it never goes away. Energy can never be nothing. Nothing can never be something. The energy was always there. The "nothing" that you're referring to is a misunderstanding of the Big Bang. What was before the Big Bang is, as of yet, unknown. There are ideas but little evidence to back them up, if any. Some people misunderstand that to mean there was nothing before the Big Bang. That is incorrect. We simply do not have that information yet. Not knowing does not equal "nothing". Quote:
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No. I stopped watching that series because it seemed sensational. If you'd like to make a point based on that specific episode, pick a segment and let us know what the time stamp is so we can discuss that specific topic directly. |
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It's really hard to tell you specific times because it's riddled with varying beliefs, rhetorical questions from scientists, religious scholars who don't believe in creationism, scientists that do, etc. C'mon it's only like 40 minutes.. Grab a beer and pop some popcorn. hehe |
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1:40 - 2:50 3:41 - 4:24 6:49 - 8:34 And so on. It's hard to pick 1 specific segment. |
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Is space infinite? We don't know, yet. Shape of the Universe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia You're giving absolute answers to questions that are still being worked on by cosmologists. Quote:
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One at a time so the conversation can be focused. What's your take on that segment? Last edited by MichaelApproved; 08-11-2013 at 02:06 AM. Reason: grammar/sentence structure |
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I used to think all this came from a fear of death. That may be part of it in that there is nothing after death. I don't believe there's a heaven (or hell for that matter) that we'd be conscious of after death, no reincarnation, no other places, nothing like The Matrix, just a blank nothing. Even the scientists that theorize that only our one universe exists, that alone is 13,800,000,000 years old and our lifetimes are currently around 80 years. Whether there's a creator beyond our knowledge or not, that sucks and makes life seem completely insignificant and pointless. Life's a bitch, I guess. Quote:
Check out 29:28-36:49, although you may want to watch more to see what they say next. Don't tell Keet though, he'll get more paranoid about HUAR. Through the Wormhole: Is There a Creator? (S01E01) [PT-BR] - YouTube I know you're aware of "The Sims" theory already (as am I) but that clip really broke it down for me. Do you believe that theory at all? The part about the rate of increase in computer power and therefore realism is bound to keep pace with that. That our real lives and virtual lives could begin to blur with increased reality. Right now we see those as just computer pixels, which could be human cells. We could be Gods of Sims, or we could Sims with a God, or we could be both many times over. That God could be just a really good programmer. We're both programmers. we code stuff, create stuff, stuff that could lead to the next programmatic generation of simulations. Are we Gods? I know you often say "science hasn't given us the answers yet" and it normally ends the conversation right there, but in the meantime I find it fascinating to discuss this stuff. So that's enough to chew on for now.. Last edited by DJQuad; 08-12-2013 at 08:38 PM. |
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I posted this on an Atheist Subreddit but it didn't get much response.
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