1078: Magic Underwear

[chrispenney]

So I been waiting for close to a year to finally make a post on the forums and seeing as I am planning coming alone for April 15th I figure now is better than never so fuuuuuuuck meeee!

The South Park episode in question about Mormons you can see here (this is only the parts from the episode explaining the faith): MilkandCookies - South Park vs Mormonism

I have known a few Mormons in my time and they were generally crappy people and had many issues, though they were born into it so I think its a little different and make me a little bias.

Really most religions are crazy, its mainly that we know most main stream one since we were younger so they seem less crazy. To each there own, but I do have to say hate the one who decide to wake me up because they want to preach to me at my own home..

[Cart Horse]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK you and a very big welcome to the forums.

[maynard]

Any organized group of people who require their members to attempt to convert others leaves me cold. Not only is narcissistic self-importance a requirement for evangelizing ("zomg I'm so smart, I know what you need!"), but most conversion efforts don't exactly work out great in a historical perspective. European missionaries were arguably a more culturally destructive force in the Americas than the Conquistadors. Asian sub-continental missionaries increased starvation and disease proliferation by increasing populations with their anti-birth control preachings. And innumerable wars have begun on the basis of religious intolerance born of the basic construct "I'm right, you're wrong. My god is real and yours is crazy."

Of course, without religious beliefs I wouldn't be able to laugh at magic underwear, magic walls that only certain people can pray at, magic wine that isn't really wine, magic words that are magic, magic sculptures that bleed, magic toast, magic rivers, magic deserts, or magic dudes that try to make you do selfish things (as if I need some magic dude to convince me to be selfish).

In the end, no I don't care if a comedian that's making me laugh is Mormon, Hindu or Zoroastrian. I only care if the comedian is making me laugh.

But just try to slip in some "join us" joke in your set buddy... just try.

[cadyshack]

Originally Posted by Cry Havoc

Had to finally register after listening to this show. Being a former Mormon myself, this brought back some memories.

You have to understand, he probably seemed hesitant to talk about the "magic underwear" for a few reasons: 1) You really can't talk about the garments as a Mormon. When you first get them you make promises to never talk about them or the other ceremonies/covenants associated with them except in vague terms. In fact, you're really not supposed to talk about the ceremonies to other Mormons either unless you are in the temple. 2) He was probably at least slightly offended that you kept referring to them as magic underwear. 3) Mormons don't like to talk about how their religion really is weird. They don't want to focus on their underwear or polygamy, they want to talk about other aspects of their religion. "Milk before meat."

And maybe he never experienced it himself, but there are some quotas for teaching people and baptizing on missions. On my mission, we had an Area Authority (big wig) come rip us a new one because we weren't baptizing enough people.

BTW, Kolob is the name of the star closest to where God resides.

Um, was raised mormon as well, and there is no rule against talking about ceremonies. We were given a run down of it in sunday school, and they even roughly go through it when you are able to walk through the temple before it is actually open

[cadyshack]

Originally Posted by ErgoProxy

Mormons believe that homosexuality is a sin don't they?. Don't they believe a random dude went into a forest and saw Jesus? They even wear special undergarments because they are ashamed of their bodies in a sense. A nice person who is a mormon is still not a logically thinking person to me, and that goes for any religion in my opinion. I dislike mormonism especially because in some instances it teaches hateful things. And here we have Ryan, who was brought up a mormon and stayed a mormon. Why in the fuck would anyone remain a mormon? Their beliefs are illogical, and they have very restricting rules. It is just mind boggling to me. Faith is just another word for believing in something that is completely illogical, and believing in something for which there is no evidence to support.

No more illogical then any other religion. So dont be harder on them then any other

[TrickyToro]

give or take $10 million dollars in fund raising and stripping away minority civil rights, sure, just like any other religion

[cadyshack]

Originally Posted by TrickyToro

give or take $10 million dollars in fund raising and stripping away minority civil rights, sure, just like any other religion

yes they have their faults. But as far as stripping away minority rights, they taught the same as other religions, just for a bit longer. The video was false in what they taught about black people. They used to teach that being black was the mark of cain, as did many other religions, it was one of the things used to support slavery, mormonism just taught it a few years after everyone else stopped. But they have now stopped. religions change, yes they have faults, but there are no many things to make fun of them for, so lets not make fun of the false things

[TrickyToro]

I was referring to push to pass Prop 8 in California for which they raised $10M

[cadyshack]

Originally Posted by TrickyToro

I was referring to push to pass Prop 8 in California for which they raised $10M

That was a horrible thing that they did. but you cant refer to the LGTB as a minority group. sexuality is not a subcategory of minority.

[Lord of the Cock Rings]

They may not be a racial minority, but they are definitely a minority group. It's about more than skin color cady.