1120: Love Your Pet

[12side]

Originally Posted by ThePlucker

i think the problem is, there is no character development in movies. which leads to dull, basic stories that get dragged on for over an hour.

I actually think the exact opposite. I think Keith is more into movies with a well based and intriguing story with somewhat static characters. I think that the character development process can be somewhat overwhelming to some. I personally love it, but I can understand those who don't. Pulp Fiction is a good example of excellent story with characters that don't do a whole lot of developing. Their personalities are already set in stone at the start of the movie. (Couterpoint: Jules getting into God after surviving the gun fight)

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

Keith ha the same approach toi movies that he has to anything else. He's hypercritical and even a small flaw pisses him off. So he doesnt hate movies. He's just more prone to dislike stuff than like it, because he's a hard-ass.

Keith likes a well laid out story that all fits together. He enjoys American Cheese, not that Swiss cheese crap.

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

In the end i saw Avatar, to understand the hoopla. This isnt the riht movie to base this argument on. It's a retarded toy on steroids and the exact opposite of what Keith likes in a movie. So, it's not a surprise at all that he did not like it.

Sidenote: If that thing is the future of movies, then movies are DEAD. There's nothing in that simple, one-note, three hour tripe that was worth going to an overpriced crowded theater. Not even the 3D.

I dont get it. I was with a bunch of friends. One was a 35 year old lady with kids. A grown up. And she was crying at the end. BAWLING. And trying to explain to me how this thing was deep and about the balance of the universe. Seriously, i'd rather have a world populated by Keiths with their perspective and reasoning criticism than this new generation of men-children, that feed their inner kid more than the actual ones.

It's a shame that these people are ourtbreeding the smart ones.

This argument could be its own thread, haha, but I'll extract one point and that is suspension of disbelief. Some people don't have it, and those people like to call those who do, "stupid". I think throwing yourself whole-heartedly into the movie makes for a more rewarding experience. Some people watch the movie, others experience it. Call me retarded, if you'd like, but I really do enjoy long character driven movies, that I can really get into, emotionally.

[Preston Buttons]

That Kevin Bacon movie was a painful exercise of cheap, predictable, emotional turns. I cried because I had to sit through the whole thing. Fail. This was shit.

[Keith]

Sounds like you hate feelings.

[Preston Buttons]

Originally Posted by Keith

Sounds like you hate feelings.

I have them all the time. I get angry when I see shit movies.

[Junkenstein]

Originally Posted by 12side

This argument could be its own thread, haha, but I'll extract one point and that is suspension of disbelief. Some people don't have it, and those people like to call those who do, "stupid". I think throwing yourself whole-heartedly into the movie makes for a more rewarding experience. Some people watch the movie, others experience it. Call me retarded, if you'd like, but I really do enjoy long character driven movies, that I can really get into, emotionally.

See, it was nice to look at, i agree with that. But after 5 minutes i forgot anything beyond some scattered shots. It was 3 hours about a cripple who goes on an alien world, and learns that aliens are good and the system is bad. Also the planet loves us and we must lovwe it back.

Whatever. To go on the "Taking Chance" tangent, i dont get someone that doesnt cry watching a movie about a man escorting a dead soldier but cries when 2 blue people repeat "i see you".

[Junior]

I'm not going to defend Avatar. It's a stupid movie. I enjoyed it, but it was stupid. It doesn't deserve any awards past the technical ones (special effects and all that jazz). Give me The Hurt Locker or Moon any day of the week.

[Preston Buttons]

I was angry at Avatar, also. It's a disappointing movie when after 30min the highlight is catching a glimpse of the occasional blue nipple.

Someone should do a 90 minute edit.

[Bucho]

I don't think Keith hates movies, in fact the exact opposite. He loves movies so much that when he sees one he thinks is bad he sees it as an insult to the medium he loves.

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

It's on the CR itunes feed. Worth listening.

Thanks buddy, I remember back when they did the show I tried to get it but that Comical Radio website is ass. I usually avoid itunes but if you and Kyle are going to force me to listen I guess it's time to bite the bullet.

Originally Posted by 12side

This argument could be its own thread, haha, but I'll extract one point and that is suspension of disbelief. Some people don't have it, and those people like to call those who do, "stupid". I think throwing yourself whole-heartedly into the movie makes for a more rewarding experience. Some people watch the movie, others experience it. Call me retarded, if you'd like, but I really do enjoy long character driven movies, that I can really get into, emotionally.

Saying some people have suspension of disbelief and some don't is way oversimplistic. I've heard a lot of people who were underwhelmed by Avatar say they were moved a great deal by recent (and far less "real") films like Up and entertained a great deal by plothole ridden movies like Star Trek. It's an entirely subjective thing and it's up to the film-maker to construct a coherent world and story and characters so that his/her audience can make sense of it.

The Matrix and Watchmen occur in realities far removed from our own and yet Keith loved them. To say he can't suspend disbelief is flat out erroneous.

[Junkenstein]

Originally Posted by Junior

I'm not going to defend Avatar. It's a stupid movie. I enjoyed it, but it was stupid. It doesn't deserve any awards past the technical ones (special effects and all that jazz). Give me The Hurt Locker or Moon any day of the week.

Avatar on the whole deserves an oscar, a lot more than Hurt Locker, simply for the technical aspects of it. The 3D alien universe was done amazingly. I think it's a groundbreaking movie as Star Wars was in the 70's. But as Star Wars, it's a silly simple thing. If i was a kid i would've loved that.

Hurt Locker was good but not oscar deserving. A good war movie, but no Black Hawk Down.

May i say... What's the deal with Shawshank Redemption? It's not THAT great.

[Preston Buttons]

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

May i say... What's the deal with Shawshank Redemption? It's not THAT great.

Incorrect.