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View Poll Results: Regarding the article on the 9-year-old with the toy gun:
Jesus Christ! The boy is 9! And it’s a 2-inch-long toy! C’mon! 124 57.67%
Keith’s right. A gun is a gun is a gun, and no thank you. 91 42.33%
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:08 PM   #41 (permalink)
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You are all missing the point. The rule is no guns in school. That means no guns in school. If you went or your kids go to a school where toy guns are ok or imaginary guns are ok then fine. But this child went to a school where you can't bring in toy guns. Thus if you do you get in trouble.

You're right though stopping kids playing with guns is a very slipperly slope eventually they won't be able to play with real guns and then the British will come in and try to house soldiers in our homes!
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:16 PM   #42 (permalink)
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You're right though stopping kids playing with guns is a very slipperly slope eventually they won't be able to play with real guns and then the British will come in and try to house soldiers in our homes!
So because I pretended to shoot lasers in elementary school, I'm going to kill people?

Maybe you're right...maybe THAT'S why I'm a physics grad student. I even know how lasers work now!
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:22 PM   #43 (permalink)
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So because I pretended to shoot lasers in elementary school, I'm going to kill people?

Maybe you're right...maybe THAT'S why I'm a physics grad student. I even know how lasers work now!
Did I say that? No, it doesn't mean you are going to be a serial killer and again if your school had no problem with you playing lasers then play all the lasers you want to. I've never worked in an elementary school but I will tell you what happens in preschool when kids play with guns inevitably it ends up with at least one child crying or pushing the other child because their friend just "shot" them. There are entirely practical reasons for stopping children playing with guns.

But aside from that this school had a rule. The child broke the rule. The child got a warning about breaking the rule. When did it become a bad thing to discipline children?
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:26 PM   #44 (permalink)
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But aside from that this school had a rule. The child broke the rule. The child got a warning about breaking the rule. When did it become a bad thing to discipline children?
I'm sorry I really can't take you seriously. You keep changing your argument.
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:30 PM   #45 (permalink)
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I'm sorry I really can't take you seriously. You keep changing your argument.
My argument has never changed. I said all along that in this instance the child broke broke a rule and deserved to be punished. Then I went on to talk about my own experiences working with children and when someone asked me what I would do if I caught them playing with guns what I would do.

In this case the child deserved to get punished for breaking the school rules. All child care centres I have worked in had similar or stricter rules about guns, and I would have no problem enforcing them. Does that clarify it for you?
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:41 PM   #46 (permalink)
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My argument has never changed.
I only say that based on this

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You're right though stopping kids playing with guns is a very slipperly slope eventually they won't be able to play with real guns and then the British will come in and try to house soldiers in our homes!
where I obviously see some sarcasm, but it's hard to tell how serious you are in text. Seems to me like you went from "against the rules" to "pretend guns lead to real guns" to "against the rules" again.
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:55 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I think Keith is right about the gun thing. What is the limit? Where are we going to draw the line?
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Old 02-09-2010, 02:01 AM   #48 (permalink)
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re: the kid with the gun.

The point is - no guns. It's irrelevant how big the gun is. Next story might be "oh wow, my 2nd grader had a pink super soaker and almost got suspended" or "it's so obvious my son's gun is a toy, like honestly, blah blah blah"

The line they drew is NO guns. Not "guns smaller than 5 inches long are permitted" or "guns that are not traditional looking guns are ok". They made an example of this kid within to school to say "Hey, kids, really, like NO guns."

I remember hearing on an earlier show about those guns that get custom painted to look like Hello Kitty and stuff. They don't look like guns that could shoot up a classroom, but they sure as fuck could. So if a kid brought a hot pink toy gun, I expect he should be suspended, just like this kid who brought a realistic yet tiny fake gun.
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