1144: The Blob

[Blitzgal]

Originally Posted by ThePinkSuperhero

That's not the same thing at all. If a person said, hey, I like blind people so much, I'm going to blind myself, or, I like deaf people so much, I'm going to make myself deaf, that would be a similar situation to a woman who is working to weigh 1000 pounds. The comparison makes the sick nature of her behavior even sharper- a person who has children in their care should not be doing things to ruin their health.

The state has no business making such distinctions. If you argue that a fat person should have her child taken away for no other reason than she isn't as ambulatory as other healthy adults, then you risk people with any disability having their children removed from their homes. The state has enough trouble helping kids who actually are endangered to deal with this nonsense.

[DarkKnightJared]

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

We cannot judge their private lives by forum posts, maybe they do stuff (shudder) off air!

Well, the back-and-forth between the two do remind me of a bitter old couple...

[whatotherway]

Michael Jackson was alleged to have touched children, and many say he did, but because of his music, a lot of those who think he did touch children, seem to think we should forgive Michael and forget what happened.

Roman Polanski was convicted of drugging and raping someone, which is definitely a crime, and a lot of these same people seem to think that because of his inspirational movies, he should be forgiven and everyone should forget what he did.

It makes me wonder if the same people would, if Hitler was instead of being inferior painter, a great painter, argue that he be forgiven the killing of somewhere between 11 and 14 million people and that we should forget about what happened? If Roman Polanski had killed so many Poles, Communists, political opponents, members of resistance groups, homosexuals, Roma, physically handicapped, mentally retarded, Soviet prisoners of war, Jehovah's Witnesses, 7th day Adventists, trade unionists, psychiatric patients, and ... who was it ... oh yes, Jews, as Hitler did, would we hear these same people arguing that we should forget what he did, because he makes such great movies?

I think it is all a matter of scale. Keith is, of course, right. A small crime against one, is no different than a large crime against 11 million. If only Keith's Justice could apply, then people like Roman Polanski, wouldn't rape drugged girls.

[Junior]

Ok. I'm going to say this one more time. I'm not suggesting that we forget that Polanski drugged and raped a 13 year old girl. I think it is important to remember how much damage he did to this young girl. This, however, does not make his art less meaningful. The point of art is to make you feel something. Chinatown and Rosemary's Baby do that to me, and his raping of the young girl has no bearing on the art itself.

Yes, his image is tainted, rightfully, by his actions. But his image and his art are separate entities.

And that's all. This topic will bear no fruit any longer if there is the inherent lack of understanding that seems to be happening here. I'm sending the CD soon, and I'm sure that will make everything better.

[spooky]

huh?

I'm very self critical, always have been. It's why I am so damned good.

Thumbnail just doesn't read the art thread. Or hasn't heard me discussing how SITC(and my own voice) puts me to sleep. Or talk about how awful my original stand up submission was. Or the babillion other things I am critical of about myself. Or heard me yap about how I believe a day without mistakes is a wasted day, as you didn't learn anything. How on earth is that bitter?

What I would like to know is, why does everyone get their panties in a wad when I say I don't like fat jokes? What is it that happened to you as a child that has caused you to seek out and try and destroy criticism? Is it me, is it the subject of the jokes, or the actual act of criticism that makes you uncomfortable enough to reach for a coping mechanism?

See, I love criticism, I don't see how you people better yourselves without it. I'm usually too close to my own work, for instance, to be able to appropriately judge it's value. In my comic work, I actually went out of my way to hire a guy whose sole job is to look at my work and tell me what he doesn't like about it, and he doesn't book end it with humor like I do. Maybe I'm not normal, though, maybe everyone but me is capable of removing themselves enough to have a reality based view of everything they create?

Oh wait, I've seen people's art, I've heard the majority of stand up submissions, I've heard listener podcasts, I've seen how you people dress, how you eat, how you behave. The world would be a better place if we all were a little more honest with our criticisms, if we were a little more open to receiving them, if we were a little less reactionary and didn't ignorantly throw around accusatory words like bitter when we see it happen.

My advice to you people who have trouble living in the real world is, try it on for size. It's a little uncomfortable at first, but it's an acquired taste, like coffee, that's hard to give up once you've experienced it. Nevermind the fact that it's healthy, it improves all of us. Do humanity a favor and participate.

from my last post in the art thread:

Originally Posted by spooky

It's a tough page that I try to make simple, but I was unable to bridge all the gaps with the viewer/reader. The page should tell a story on it's own, without the aid of words, though the final version has words that clarify, but it's a fail without them.

Maybe one day later in my career, I will figure a better way to do it, but I'm still green. Feel free to offer suggestions.

[Bucho]

I don't know how good Kyle is at folding up t-shirts and hoodies and the rest of that interning malarky but he's always aces when it comes to yapping it up on the show.

Originally Posted by Northwoods

The sandwich ... started eating away at her skin.

Those fucking sandwiches, always forgetting their place in the food chain.

[Jo_Culprit]

I'm usually too close to my own work

Sounds like you can also be too close to your own comments and by this i just mean that you make comments to people as if theyre you and are heavily critical of themselves like you are.

An as far as the critisism = improvement approach i have found that this can become very mechanical and also limiting in itself. In essense it means your own view on your work is prejudiced so you look outside to others for unbiased feedback while this also means that you can become prejudiced about your methods of improvement if your not looking outwardly aswell.

Like some kind of unspookably long loop of adjustment

just thought id give my perspective
cheers

[lizsquiz]

re: fat lady

Have you ever seen the BBC documentary "Fat Girls and Feeders"?

I settled in to watch it one night with a packet of Tim Tams. These fat pigs are ENORMOUS. To the point where their skin in some places in 2 inches thick because they're not mobile and moving around so it doesn't naturally shed as t dies. They liken it to elephant skin. There's a woman who's in super fat pig soft porn who is standing in front of a mirror swaying from side to side, but in such a way that she is so fat that her fat is a sway behind her and she sways back into it on the return trip (if that makes sense)

Needless to say, that entire pack of Tim Tams went in the bin. And that's kind of a big deal.

[Blitzgal]

Originally Posted by lizsquiz

re: fat lady

Have you ever seen the BBC documentary "Fat Girls and Feeders"?

For some reason the whole feeder phenomenon reminds me of Chinese foot binding. The fetish seems more linked to the fact that the woman is hobbled and can no longer move properly (or get away). Everyone involved in the mess pretends that the woman is up on a pedestal and being worshiped because it helps them justify the insanity of the situation.

[Keith]

Don't you dare tell me a 600 pound mother is an insane idea!

Next thing you know they'll be taking kids away from me cause I got a piece of hair stuck in my eye!