1196: I Don't

[RichieGB]

About the last comic to showcase this week on Last Comic Standing (don't remember his name). He was talking about his 2-year old as a WWII Japanese General...it was eerily similar to Jesse Joyce's German trick-or-treater joke. The pacing the stage, smoking a cigarette, it seemed very close.

ETA: The comic's name was Jason Nash.

[Junkenstein]

Not only i cannot be friends with ex's but usally i burn bridges with her friends too. I avoid going in the same places, and i destroy all pictures and memorabilias of our relationship.

It's very juvenile and silly but i cant seem to be able to avoid that. I cannot speak with them for years. Even if i dont blatantly hate them, i just dont wnat to see them or hear their voice.

That happened after even the most civil breakups (threre wernt many, though). I just have to completely erase them and everything that has to do with 'em. Not saying this as a positive. I wish i could be friends with some, since if we connected there was probably a good reason, and at least keep the circle of friends i gained from them, but everytime i tried it was just awkward and painful.

That's also why i try to avoid in depth relationship with coworkers.

[Bucho]

Originally Posted by thepetek

Eesh, I really wish you had read that email I sent before you posted this. Remember that fine little German Shepard from Timaru? Yeah, she wasn't actually flying to LA to try out for some sort of Rin Tin Tin reboot movie. She and I sorta hit it off online, I guess you were at work, and one thing led to another and she was, uh, actually visiting me. Anyway, sent you an email explaining everything and saying I was sorry. I just couldn't help myself, she was a REAL bitch. Oh when I think back on...but you don't need to hear this. Again. Sorry.

Goddammit. Then it really is true what they say about Timaru girls.

[spooky]

Just a minor point on the Rush Limbaugh thing:

Being against gay marriage does not automatically make you anti gay or even anti gay rights. I don't know Limbaugh's views on the matter, and don't care, but I think people need to stop deliberately painting targets on people and fanning the flames of hate.

FYI: I, like nearly every gay and reasonably intelligent person I have talked to about this are all against gay marriage. It steps on the rights of free religion and promotes further government involvement in an area that it already needs to be removed from. Government involvement in any religion also means religion involved in government, and that should always be removed, it would benefit all. The smart money is on civil unions for all, gay and straight, and the religious can go do whatever they want without anyone caring.

So, maybe Limbaugh is against gay rights, I don't know and don't care, and having a gay perform may or may not make him a hypocrite. But calling him a hypocrite for being against gay marriage makes no logical sense unless you are merely trying to spin the facts and promote hate.

It's a minor point of semantics, but there really is an ocean of difference between being against gay marriage and being against gay rights.

[thepetek]

Originally Posted by Bucho

Goddammit. Then it really is true what they say about Timaru girls.

To be fair, she spent her formative years in Arrowtown, and she was really a bitch more than a girl.

[Junkenstein]

Originally Posted by spooky

So, maybe Limbaugh is against gay rights, I don't know and don't care, and having a gay perform may or may not make him a hypocrite. But calling him a hypocrite for being against gay marriage makes no logical sense unless you are merely trying to spin the facts and promote hate..

I agree with you on the fact that being against gay marriage and beinng homophobic are two different things (although they converge more often than not, when you make people say what they REALLY mean)

But Limbaugh proved himself to be an open homophobe.

This, for example, is an infamouse quote he made:


“…let’s say we discover the gene that says the kid’s gonna be gay. How many parents, if they knew before the kid was gonna be born, [that he] was gonna be gay, they would take the pregnancy to term? Well, you don’t know but let’s say half of them said, “Oh, no, I don’t wanna do that to a kid.” [Then the] gay community finds out about this. The gay community would do the fastest 180 and become pro-life faster than anybody you’ve ever seen. … They’d be so against abortion if it was discovered that you could abort what you knew were gonna be gay babies.”

There's more, and no i did not make it up.

I understand that most of the stuff he says is set to create controversy, much like lady Coulter when she said that gay marriage was "A way for gay to visit each other in hospitals", but even those statements must be countered.

[thepetek]

Originally Posted by spooky

Being against gay marriage does not automatically make you anti gay or even anti gay rights. I don't know Limbaugh's views on the matter, and don't care, but I think people need to stop deliberately painting targets on people and fanning the flames of hate..

Quick google search of 'Rush Limbaugh civil unions' seems to suggest both Limbaugh and John are on the same page.

Originally Posted by spooky

FYI: I, like nearly every gay and reasonably intelligent person I have talked to about this are all against gay marriage. It steps on the rights of free religion and promotes further government involvement in an area that it already needs to be removed from. Government involvement in any religion also means religion involved in government, and that should always be removed, it would benefit all. The smart money is on civil unions for all, gay and straight, and the religious can go do whatever they want without anyone caring.

Aw c'mon. Let's just use the Episcopal church. They allow priests to marry, they allow gay priests (hell, <oops> bishops) if they wanted to allow gay priests, or hell, just gay Episcopals to marry, wouldn't that be stepping on the toes of religion?

Honestly, I think everyone should have to get a 'civil license' to be 'contractually united' by the gov., and "marriage" would just be a religious thing with no legal bearing. I mean just cos someone is confirmed or bar mitzvahed at whatever ages doesn't mean you can vote or drink. Or even drive.

Originally Posted by spooky

So, maybe Limbaugh is against gay rights, I don't know and don't care, and having a gay perform may or may not make him a hypocrite. But calling him a hypocrite for being against gay marriage makes no logical sense unless you are merely trying to spin the facts and promote hate.

You're True/False Statements are imbalanced. Maybe you're against logic. I don't know and I don't care, and claiming to be logical may or may not make you a hypocrite. But calling you a hypocrite for being against logic makes no logical sense unless you are merely trying to spin the facts and promote chaos.

Originally Posted by spooky

It's a minor point of semantics, but there really is an ocean of difference between being against gay marriage and being against gay rights.

I agree that a constitutional amendment declaring that the only union* recognized by the government is a civil union, (straight or gay) should be passed.

Religious contracts should be treated as mere hoodoo.

*not being a lawyer, I have no better term. Somebody more informed that I can clear this up. Probably there is some party of the first party/party of the second party language. We can't use 'union' cos the UAW/Teamsters/AFL/CIO/NEA/Local Steamfitters/etc wouldn't sign on to this. The only word I can think of is marria...right, so, let the lawyers work up the language.

[JSZilla]

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

Not only i cannot be friends with ex's but usally i burn bridges with her friends too. I avoid going in the same places, and i destroy all pictures and memorabilias of our relationship.

It's very juvenile and silly but i cant seem to be able to avoid that. I cannot speak with them for years. Even if i dont blatantly hate them, i just dont wnat to see them or hear their voice.

That happened after even the most civil breakups (threre wernt many, though). I just have to completely erase them and everything that has to do with 'em. Not saying this as a positive. I wish i could be friends with some, since if we connected there was probably a good reason, and at least keep the circle of friends i gained from them, but everytime i tried it was just awkward and painful.

That's also why i try to avoid in depth relationship with coworkers.

This. This. THIS. THIS! THIS!! 100% THIS!

Also, the worst? Having a large amount of shared friends, it gets broken off, now a game of who is more friends with who begins. As well as a supreme amount of awkwardness, BUT THEN! It gets better you have the chance to see them again! You better hope it was ended well cuz if it won't...Ya fucked. If it was. It's awkward time! You will lose friends in the end if it gets divided and it gets all kinds of complicated from there.

[Junkenstein]

Originally Posted by JSZilla

Also, the worst? Having a large amount of shared friends, it gets broken off, now a game of who is more friends with who begins. As well as a supreme amount of awkwardness, BUT THEN! It gets better you have the chance to see them again! You better hope it was ended well cuz if it won't...Ya fucked. If it was. It's awkward time! You will lose friends in the end if it gets divided and it gets all kinds of complicated from there.

In my latest relationship i always tries to date girls outside of my circle of close friends, or at least not having serious stuff going on with 'em.

And tried also to be "pleasantly acquainted" with her friends but nothing more than that. That way, if we split, she can complain how much she wants about what an asshole i am without me having to hear about it.

Plus, since most single male friends are usually animals on the prowl, i'd rather have her fuck or date a guy i dont give a fuck about, rather than my supposed best buddy.

And i dont want to go out after a week after the split her and see her make out with him because "well you broke up, right? C'mon!".

Yes everything i said works both ways, yes it all comes from real experience.

[LatterDaySaint]

I agree that being against gay marriage doesn't make a person anti-gay. I also agree that there are probably few people who are anti-gay while being pro gay marriage.

I am personally against people who own chimps as pets. I'm a chimp hater in fact. I think these people belong to a subhuman class and I wouldn't stand up for their basic human rights. I believe that these people have nothing to add to society. I wish there was a catchy nickname we could give them like "chimpers" or something. If my wife wanted to invite a person who owned a chimp to our wedding I would say "No fucking way!".

Chances are that Rush isn't really a gay hater he just plays one on the radio. Which still makes him a piece of shit IMO.