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Keith 10-28-2010 10:17 PM

1281: 10001110101 IN 3-D
 
"I happened to masturbate to this woman just the other day."



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mcbane89 10-28-2010 11:17 PM

Naturally this thread is in 3-D, so please put on your glasses..... (clown horn!)



NOW!!NOW!!

DWarrior 10-29-2010 12:17 AM

u IN 3-D
 
Yay, my kind of title!

Here's a little of foundations to extend your computer science knowledge:

The reason 0s and 1s are used is because, as you said, they can model "off" and "on" (0 for nothing, 1 for something), and it's a lot easier to make a two-state switch than a 3-state switch.

The most basic motivation for creating computers is to...compute stuff, and since it's also congruent with my interests, I know a bit of that. Anything more advanced, I'll leave to the computer nerds:

All numbers can be represented as binary sequences, so for whole numbers the easiest way is to make each place a power of 2, remember that 2^0 (2 to 0th power) is 1. So 0 is still 0, 1 is still 1, but now 10 is 2 (2*1 + 1*0), 110 is 6 (4*1+2*1+1*0), 1111 is 15 (8*1+4*1+2*1+1*1).

You can do all math in binary, it's just a bit strange, and nobody sane remembers a multiplication table in binary. But if you want to add 5+3, in binary it's 101+11=1000. 10-7 is 1010-111=11. Multiplying by 2 is easy as multiplying by 10 in binary: 7*2 is 111*10=1110

And you also have propositional logic, let False = 0, True = 1. A logical variable A takes on only one of two possible values, 0 (for False) or 1 (for True).

Define three operations:
Given some value A, define ~A (read "not A") as its opposite. So ~0=1, ~1=0.

Given A and B, define (A v B) (read "A or B") as 1 if at least one of them is 1. So (0 v 0)=0, but all other cases are 1.

Given A and B, define (A ^ B) (read "A and B") as 1 if both of them are 1s, otherwise 0. So (1 ^ 1)=1, everything else is 0.

If you imagine A and B as some sort of pipes with water (or wires with electricity), you can construct "logic gates" that will produce flow corresponding to the desired operation. For example, an "OR gate" with input tubes A and B is simply the merging of the two tubes. If water flows through one of them, water will flow out, otherwise nothing. A "NOT gate" with input A would need a separate stream that would flow out if nothing flows out of A or would get deflected if there's a stream at A.

Of course, it's much more convenient to manipulate electronic logic gates than pipes with water. This is usually done on a circuit board.

We now have the tools to make a very basic adding calculator. Here's one that adds two numbers up to 7:

Given two numbers, A and B, write them in binary and each up to three binary digits long (so up to 7), write A as (a3 a2 a1) and B as (b3 b2 b1), where a1 is the first digit of A, a2 is the second digit, and so on. If the numbers are less than 3 digits long, then just tack on 0s on the left (so if A=1, write 001).

A+B=C, where C can be up to four digits long, written as (c4 c3 c2 c1). Then the propositional logic formulas for addition are:

c1 = (a1 v b1) ^ ~(a1 ^ b1)

c2 = (((a1 ^ b1) v ((a2 v b2) ^ ~(a2 ^ b2))) ^ ~((a1 ^ b1) ^ ((a2 v b2) ^ ~(a2 ^ b2))))

c3 = (((((a2 ^ b2) v (a2 ^ (a1 ^ b1))) v (b2 ^ (a1 ^ b1))) v ((a3 v b3) ^ ~(a3 ^ b3))) ^ ~((((a2 ^ b2) v (a2 ^ (a1 ^ b1))) v (b2 ^ (a1 ^ b1))) ^ ((a3 v b3) ^ ~(a3 ^ b3))))

c4 = (((a3 ^ b3) v (a3 ^ (((a2 ^ b2) v (a2 ^ (a1 ^ b1))) v (b2 ^ (a1 ^ b1))))) v (b3 ^ (((a2 ^ b2) v (a2 ^ (a1 ^ b1))) v (b2 ^ (a1 ^ b1)))))

If you want to add 2+6, input for A (0, 1, 0) and for B (1, 1, 0), and if you go through the equations, you will see C comes out to be (1, 0, 0, 0), which is just 8 in binary.

If you had a circuit board and a bunch of logic gates at your disposal, and batteries/lightbulbs for input and output, you could construct this calculator. In practice, these gates are constructed on a molecular scale, so you have millions of them packed in one chip.

Keith 10-29-2010 12:34 AM

I disagree with some of that.

fluxquanta 10-29-2010 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWarrior (Post 678414)
Yay, my kind of title!

I don't know what's more sad: you writing this whole post, me reading the whole thing, or me understanding and being bored with it.

It did make me want to bust out my soldering iron, though.

DWarrior 10-29-2010 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluxquanta (Post 678418)
I don't know what's more sad: you writing this whole post, me reading the whole thing, or me understanding and being bored with it.

It did make me want to bust out my soldering iron, though.

I think me writing all that wins by far. None of it is really complicated though, so I expect tech nerds to be bored, and everyone else to be jostled by the notation.

Sadly, that's pretty much the extent of my low-level comp sci knowledge. I'm not even familiar with a computer as a logic-machine, I only have a guess at how a PC actually works. Highschool assembly class pretty much turned me off low-level computing forever.

I've also never soldered a logical circuit on the not/and/or level, I've only done the diagrams. Do you actually need to buy the gates, or are the basic ones easy to make on your own?

fluxquanta 10-29-2010 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWarrior (Post 678423)
Do you actually need to buy the gates, or are the basic ones easy to make on your own?

Circuit components are cheap as fuck, so I would imagine making most "elementary" parts would just be a wasted effort (last time I bought transistors they were 15 for $3 at Radio Shack, IC's are maybe a dollar each). I've never seen pure logic gates used in actual circuits though. Admittedly my hands on circuit experience isn't that vast (I took one electronics course in college and dicked around on my own), but I think all logic gates are done in the context of integrated circuits which you can just pick up.

See CMOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Keith 10-29-2010 02:05 AM

I think A/S/L should include F

You guys fucking someone?

DWarrior 10-29-2010 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 678426)
I think A/S/L should include F

You guys fucking someone?

Not currently.

How about you, Keith? A/S/L/F?

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6807/onohedidnt.jpg

Keith 10-29-2010 02:48 AM

36/Male/NYC/Yes

Junkenstein 10-29-2010 03:48 AM

FY:SY=P!:SP!

funnygurl1979 10-29-2010 06:50 AM

30/Female/Aldergrove, B.C./ no....:(
Cup size C

fluxquanta 10-29-2010 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 678426)
I think A/S/L should include F

You guys fucking someone?

No, I'm too busy fucking your mind.

Rufio 10-29-2010 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWarrior (Post 678414)
Yay, my kind of title!

Here's a little of foundations to extend your computer science knowledge:

The reason 0s and 1s are used is because, as you said, they can model "off" and "on" (0 for nothing, 1 for something), and it's a lot easier to make a two-state switch than a 3-state switch.

The most basic motivation for creating computers is to...compute stuff, and since it's also congruent with my interests, I know a bit of that. Anything more advanced, I'll leave to the computer nerds:

All numbers can be represented as binary sequences, so for whole numbers the easiest way is to make each place a power of 2, remember that 2^0 (2 to 0th power) is 1. So 0 is still 0, 1 is still 1, but now 10 is 2 (2*1 + 1*0), 110 is 6 (4*1+2*1+1*0), 1111 is 15 (8*1+4*1+2*1+1*1).

You can do all math in binary, it's just a bit strange, and nobody sane remembers a multiplication table in binary. But if you want to add 5+3, in binary it's 101+11=1000. 10-7 is 1010-111=11. Multiplying by 2 is easy as multiplying by 10 in binary: 7*2 is 111*10=1110

And you also have propositional logic, let False = 0, True = 1. A logical variable A takes on only one of two possible values, 0 (for False) or 1 (for True).

Define three operations:
Given some value A, define ~A (read "not A") as its opposite. So ~0=1, ~1=0.

Given A and B, define (A v B) (read "A or B") as 1 if at least one of them is 1. So (0 v 0)=0, but all other cases are 1.

Given A and B, define (A ^ B) (read "A and B") as 1 if both of them are 1s, otherwise 0. So (1 ^ 1)=1, everything else is 0.

If you imagine A and B as some sort of pipes with water (or wires with electricity), you can construct "logic gates" that will produce flow corresponding to the desired operation. For example, an "OR gate" with input tubes A and B is simply the merging of the two tubes. If water flows through one of them, water will flow out, otherwise nothing. A "NOT gate" with input A would need a separate stream that would flow out if nothing flows out of A or would get deflected if there's a stream at A.

Of course, it's much more convenient to manipulate electronic logic gates than pipes with water. This is usually done on a circuit board.

We now have the tools to make a very basic adding calculator. Here's one that adds two numbers up to 7:

Given two numbers, A and B, write them in binary and each up to three binary digits long (so up to 7), write A as (a3 a2 a1) and B as (b3 b2 b1), where a1 is the first digit of A, a2 is the second digit, and so on. If the numbers are less than 3 digits long, then just tack on 0s on the left (so if A=1, write 001).

A+B=C, where C can be up to four digits long, written as (c4 c3 c2 c1). Then the propositional logic formulas for addition are:

c1 = (a1 v b1) ^ ~(a1 ^ b1)

c2 = (((a1 ^ b1) v ((a2 v b2) ^ ~(a2 ^ b2))) ^ ~((a1 ^ b1) ^ ((a2 v b2) ^ ~(a2 ^ b2))))

c3 = (((((a2 ^ b2) v (a2 ^ (a1 ^ b1))) v (b2 ^ (a1 ^ b1))) v ((a3 v b3) ^ ~(a3 ^ b3))) ^ ~((((a2 ^ b2) v (a2 ^ (a1 ^ b1))) v (b2 ^ (a1 ^ b1))) ^ ((a3 v b3) ^ ~(a3 ^ b3))))

c4 = (((a3 ^ b3) v (a3 ^ (((a2 ^ b2) v (a2 ^ (a1 ^ b1))) v (b2 ^ (a1 ^ b1))))) v (b3 ^ (((a2 ^ b2) v (a2 ^ (a1 ^ b1))) v (b2 ^ (a1 ^ b1)))))

If you want to add 2+6, input for A (0, 1, 0) and for B (1, 1, 0), and if you go through the equations, you will see C comes out to be (1, 0, 0, 0), which is just 8 in binary.

If you had a circuit board and a bunch of logic gates at your disposal, and batteries/lightbulbs for input and output, you could construct this calculator. In practice, these gates are constructed on a molecular scale, so you have millions of them packed in one chip.

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3603/didntread.gif

mcbane89 10-29-2010 09:49 AM

I know a little code...

My interest in anything a certain douche says? - 000000000000

How do you write out "USA" in code? - #111111111goldmedal

How big a douche DWarrior is? - <error><!#untoldexception&%><#$stretchingtoinfinit y%>



ASL Keith! Yeah buddy whooo!

DarkKnightJared 10-29-2010 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 678428)
36/Male/NYC/Yes

But, would you be able to say yes if people didn't figure out that kind of stuff all those years ago? Just sayin', you can't have Skype Fucking without someone figuring out the computer science, and a whole bunch of other people learning it so they can maintain and grow upon it.

birch 10-29-2010 10:39 AM

This is all well and good but why isn't anyone talking about MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! or should I say 11100100100101010000101110101!!!!!!

doug 10-29-2010 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birch (Post 678482)
This is all well and good but why isn't anyone talking about MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! or should I say 11100100100101010000101110101!!!!!!

Fuuucckkk yoouuuuu and welcome to the forums.


I got my eye on you robot.

birch 10-29-2010 11:26 AM

Ok, that's good enough for me. Thanks Doug.

metal_martha_stewart 10-29-2010 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkenstein (Post 678433)
FY:SY=P!:SP!

Gah, you're a math whiz as well? How'd I ever get so lucky?

SeanGraves 10-29-2010 01:00 PM

A LONG, long time ago in Freshman year. A friend and I used Basic Code to make a Television flash a white screen for all of five seconds. This landed us the A in Science class. But the fun part was staying up nights on end just to make it work. We used an old Atari. It took class hour, and after school time to make the result happen.
I don't know if Binary is anything like Basic. But it was fun.

BrianAlt 10-29-2010 01:15 PM

I am married for 19 years as of last week. My wedding started during a blackout.

I drove up to the reception hall and I knew something was odd right away. The traffic lights were out and there were cops out directing traffic. We went in and the place was cold and dark. I found my wife(-to-be) and she was upbeat. In the most upbeat way she could she told me that there was indeed a blackout. Apparently a squirrel had crawled into the transformer on the pole and *ZAP* blew it out. There was no power for around a 3 block radius. She was getting her makeup on in a window, the best light she could find.

The place put candles EVERYWHERE. To the point where I was worried about fire. But thankfully that didn't happen. Guests started coming and they remarked how romantic it was with all the candles! When my friends went into the mens bathroom and saw candles in there too, they knew something was wrong. No one puts candles in the mens room!

The ceremony was supposed to start at noon and noon came and went without lights. The owners of the hall promised that the lights would be on before 12:30! The county electricians were going to take a lunch break at noon, but the caterers went out and gave them $200 to keep working. They did and around 12:15 LIGHTS! Hooray.

The ceremony started at 12:30 and during the ceremony the rabbi quipped, "not once did I hear anyone speak of the demise of the squirrel!"

Medium Brumski 10-29-2010 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianAlt (Post 678509)
I am married for 19 years as of last week. My wedding started during a blackout.

Ha, at first I thought you meant you were drunk.

BrianAlt 10-29-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medium Brumski (Post 678520)
Ha, at first I thought you meant you were drunk.

That came later on.

outlaw 10-29-2010 04:21 PM

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DWarrior 10-29-2010 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufio (Post 678465)

LOL, I knew someone would do that to me.

baristaman 10-29-2010 05:01 PM

3-D
 
Wouldn't a 3-D podcast be in stereo?

mcbane89 10-29-2010 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birch (Post 678482)
This is all well and good but why isn't anyone talking about MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! or should I say 11100100100101010000101110101!!!!!!

I did have one question Mike... Since Macbeth is completely cursed, often bringing horror and misfortune to all involved, by doing a one man production aren't you concentrating all of that horror and misfortune onto yourself? You are a brave man to laugh in the face of danger like that.

But semi more seriously, I've always kind of wondered the thought process that goes into doing a one man show. Especially something pretty ambitious like this... The cost? The difficulty?

DWarrior 10-29-2010 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baristaman (Post 678539)
Wouldn't a 3-D podcast be in stereo?

Surround sound

fluxquanta 10-29-2010 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcbane89 (Post 678573)
I did have one question Mike... Since Macbeth is completely cursed, often bringing horror and misfortune to all involved, by doing a one man production aren't you concentrating all of that horror and misfortune onto yourself?

He mentioned that in the context of ACTUALLY performing the play it's fine. Just don't expect to not hit your head on a speaker just off stage.

mcbane89 10-30-2010 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fluxquanta (Post 678582)
He mentioned that in the context of ACTUALLY performing the play it's fine. Just don't expect to not hit your head on a speaker just off stage.

Yeah, saying "Macbeth" is really, really, bad, but I've also heard just trying to put on the play itself is a cursed endeavor... but considering the number of people that do it year round it must be more of an annoyance curse, like you lose your car keys all the time or something...

Keith 10-30-2010 01:24 AM

He performs Hamlet, not M-cbeth.

mcbane89 10-30-2010 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 678595)
He performs Hamlet, not M-cbeth.

Ah, motherfuck! I even watched the clips and everything....

And you can't even spell it out? Double fuck!

birch 10-30-2010 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcbane89 (Post 678573)
I did have one question Mike... Since Macbeth is completely cursed, often bringing horror and misfortune to all involved, by doing a one man production aren't you concentrating all of that horror and misfortune onto yourself? You are a brave man to laugh in the face of danger like that.

But semi more seriously, I've always kind of wondered the thought process that goes into doing a one man show. Especially something pretty ambitious like this... The cost? The difficulty?

Well, I'm doing a One Man Hamlet so it's not so cursed, thankfully. It is ambitious and could easily devolve into parody but I stay true to the story and the cost is rather low cuz it's just one dude running around. One man shows are usuallly the cheapest things to produce. You need a room and some lights usually, maybe a couple sound cues.

birch 10-30-2010 07:21 AM

Look at Keith, coming around on the curse idea. He musta stubbed his toe after the show or something. Thanks for watching, McBane!

mcbane89 10-30-2010 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birch (Post 678616)
Well, I'm doing a One Man Hamlet so it's not so cursed, thankfully. It is ambitious and could easily devolve into parody but I stay true to the story and the cost is rather low cuz it's just one dude running around. One man shows are usuallly the cheapest things to produce. You need a room and some lights usually, maybe a couple sound cues.

No, seriously, sorry about that, got so preoccupied with the Macbeth stuff my brain substituted the two. I had the teacher shove the student into a closet, M-cbeth was on the brain.

But yeah, I've always been kind of curious about one man shows, because you don't have other actors to feed off of, and since it's just you up there it could easily devolve into parody as you said. I thought it was cool the way you used subtle things to differentiate the characters, especially the fathers ghost. I'm just sort of fascinated because I figured out pretty early acting was not for me, even in a full cast vein, and a one man show seems completely terrifying!


And how could Keith not believe in curses? Look how he can't get rid of Danny Lobel or Matt from the Jamhole... I'm thinking Little Baby Faggot was a powerful gypsy.

BrianAlt 10-30-2010 06:07 PM

Also, if you spell M-cbeth out completely, thespians can't throw it out.

robtor1 10-30-2010 08:54 PM

3-D
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baristaman (Post 678539)
Wouldn't a 3-D podcast be in stereo?

After listening to this show is 3-D AND stereo, I don't think I can go on living in the real world.

awesomesauce 10-31-2010 10:00 PM

I have the nerd-logic problem. It super interrupts my life and causes me to lose "friends". Does anyone have advice on how to cure nerdiness?

doug 10-31-2010 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awesomesauce (Post 678902)
I have the nerd-logic problem. It super interrupts my life and causes me to lose "friends". Does anyone have advice on how to cure nerdiness?

I would start by not putting "friends" in quotes.

What is that supposed to mean?

Were they not really your friends?


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