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i always had hopes on the possibility of reforming pedophiles but reading books on the subjects and trying to understand it, made me kinda aware that its not a suppressable urge in most cases. it comes back.
next sentence will sound like homophobia but its not what its meant to be, so please do not overread into this: from what i gathered for a lot of pedophiles, their attraction to young boys is close to a sexual orientation. that does not justify it or makes it tolerable, since said orientation involves the abuse of a person (and in this case, even if the kids are "consenusal" it is still abuse, since they are manipulated into believeng that what they're doin is right) but it means, to me, that if you try to "clean their heads" or guide them, you might end up with a pedophile who suppresses his/her instincts but ends up with a resurfacing after a while, like it happend with reformed gays. some head are shaped the wrong way, and cant be helpes. i think the same of lots of drug addicts and abuysive people too. the failures on the long distance are a such a high number, and the victims of their actions keep rising. |
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No homophobia, because pedophiles target boys or girls depending on whichever gender they are attracted to. It isn't a "gay" thing. It's an entirely separate orientation, if that's what you want to call it. The guy in Wisconsin who had used kids underwear in his van was into girls. |
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actually, i think child abuse has more numbers in the man with little girls aspect, especially of the incestous type. |
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EDIT: ha sorry Junk you beat me to reenforcing your point |
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yeah, and i think it doesnt humanize them or make it tolerable since the main assumption of all interactions is not hurting or abusing others (unless they like it and theyre consensual) and NO underage person can be consensual.
still that to me just means that even if they KNOW its wrong (and lots of em do), they cant help it and cannot be helped. a good extreme example is the pedophile priest in the docu "deliver us from evil". the man says out loud he wont stop and he wants to be lockjed up or put down cause he cannot control himself, and confesses on cam cause its the only he thing that can stop it. at that point, he has to be put down somehow. |
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