1349: Six Years Down
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Congratulations and thank you for 6 years!
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Are robots rallying against the anniversary show?
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If you don't hear things in, I dunno, two weeks, you should send it again. Carpet bomb, baby! Send it to everybody on the board, send it to everybody who runs the place, call on the phone and send it to every single person you talk to until you hear back! JUSTICE!
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Creamy peanut butter....Winning!
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Congrats Keith and Cat
Okay so 58 minutes into the show now and two mentions that Keith got married - I'm going to take it that congratulations are in order, otherwise I am now the butt of a joke that reveals itself later in the show. Ah wells, I'll take the risk. I wish the best and am very happy for you both - cheers!
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Also, two people that have been on TV with Myq Kaplan have passed away. Perhaps he is the Angel of Death. Look out, Keith and Chemda. Bring another comic on the show, just to cover your bases.
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he said on twitter that he isnt married and it came out wrong.
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Junkenstein! Those are my Twitter secrets!
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oops.
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Who specifically did you send the complaint letter to? Consumerist blog has a good rundown of how to "launch an executive email carpet bomb." I apologize in advance; I realize this advice is probably too late.
How To Launch An Executive Email Carpet Bomb - The Consumerist |
i wish it could do good things , it would be a first. never wrote a letter to a big company and got an answer. although thye airline that had issues with kevin smith did apologize to him after he started the fuss.
weird my parents also blamed me for their broken marriage and also for NOT ebing able to divorce (while they're still just seprarated). i think that made me anti-marriage. |
I don't know the stats, but Consumerist posts success stories. Most recent one was a landlord who wasn't going to fix a tenant's leaky ceiling for five months. Main points are to go after their bottom line, which I think Keith did in his letter by mentioning that he's relaying this problem on his radio program. It depends on how seriously they take threats of bad word of mouth.
Landlord Wouldn't Fix Leak For 5 Months. This Letter Got Him To Do It in 5 Days. - The Consumerist This article advises that you start through official channels, which it sounds like Keith did. You escalate when you get no response. http://www.frommers.com/articles/6806.html This is the consumer wiki mentioned in the above article, for Continental. (if he wants to escalate): http://onyoursi.de/wiki/travel/airli...ntal-airlines/ |
Can Lucas' silence rule be enforced during the show too? He's a one man laugh track.
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same comment i did for kyle: i like hearing him crack up.
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allow me to add that my love for the awesomeness that is Myq Kaplan continues to grow.
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From what I've read on Gawker, the kiddie porn book included explicit photos of the author touching children. It was NOT just "words."
It's also why I do not accept the rationalization that viewing kiddie porn images is a victimless crime. Real children are assaulted to create the images that other pedophiles share. So frankly I don't give a shit if guy A only looks at pictures on the internet. He is creating a market in which guy B exploits and assaults children to provide the product that guy A wants. |
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ok, you got him. he actually has 3 kids and has really moved to scotland. and cat is a man.
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hes a jazz host yuou should listen to what he's NOT saying.
he also joined the KKK. |
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nah, im stupid. i dont get jokes.
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1) If there are pictures of naked kids in the book, agreed that that is worse and more worthy of being illegal than just words. (But then I would still say, why is it "obscenity laws," and not "child pornography laws," unless that is indeed what it is, in which case I'm on board.) 2) What do you think about the idea of computer-generated pictures of naked kids? Where real children are NOT assaulted. (Sort of the opposite of an organic, free range, locally grown situation--all artificial, no children were harmed in the making of this porn.) I believe that stuff exists and that there have been legal battles over whether it should be allowable. (It would probably be easy for me to google it in the time it takes for me to say how easy it would be, but I didn't. Thoughts or facts, anyone?) |
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I'm trying to think of a comparable and I can't. Even cruelty to animals isn't a crime if it is only animated. Child porn is just on its own level and even when animated is very wrong. WRONG, Myq Kaplan! |
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Like, you can have a movie where rape is depicted in graphic fashion, yes? Or you could have paintings of horrible violent acts, right? Obviously if you had a movie about a pedophile, I could see not wanting to have a real child even pretend to be molested or what have you (though certainly there are movies where children play abused children, and have to say and do things that, even though pretend, might be arguably traumatic), so in such situations, wouldn't an animated child rapee be the lesser of evils? I mean, part of this question adds the element of "if child porn is illegal but child rape depiction for artistic purposes is not, where do you draw the line" (Keith: 'EVERYWHERE!'), and then we're back to the "I know porn when I see it" ambiguity... Also, what about this: there's obviously not a lot of research done one what makes there be less pedophilic activity. But we know that there certainly are pedophiles who behave themselves, who keep their unfortunate genetic makeup to themselves, and live out their fantasies in fantasy only (Dan Savage calls them "gold star pedophiles"), and it sucks to be them, but it's great that they do what they do, and don't do what they don't. So my question here is, would having access to CGI child porn make there be more satisfiable gold-star pedos? Or would having that exist make them be more likely to go out looking for the real thing, gateway style? Again, I don't know if this is answerable with no real research able to be conducted ethically, but it seems to me that pedophiles are fantasizing anyway, having no porn available might make them go crazier and seek whatever they can, including real children, as opposed to having the potential outlet of animated fake stuff available. Just horrible food for gross thought. PS I am sexually attracted to adults. And arguments. |
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At the very least if the cruelty free porn can really take off it would mean that a whole bunch of kids would avoid a great deal unpleasantness in the making of kiddie porn. |
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Huh, I thought I posted a correction but I was in a hurry so maybe I didn't save it.
I looked for the original article I *thought* I remembered reading about this book, but I can't find it. Everything I'm reading tonight says there are no photos in this book, which is likely why they depended on the decades-old obscenity laws to charge him with. I still think every private seller such as Amazon should refuse to sell such shit. Quote:
I think historically chemical castration has not been very effective in stopping these people from raping children, so I don't have much faith that providing something to get them aroused and riled up would do any better. And how do we know about these magical pedophiles who never act on their impulses? Again, if they participate in the underground market for kiddie porn, they are still abusing children simply by expanding the market for this product. |
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The scene from Prince of Tides where the boy is raped is still burned into my brain and will never go away. And I saw it about 10 years ago. Children are innocents, which is why this is such a crime. We are absolutely destroying the spirit and soul of a child, and potentially creating a monster. It is why animal abuse is WAY more horrible than spousal abuse in my book, the animal has no control/though process about the situation. The spouse can at least get the hell out of there. And yes I realize this is a blanket statement, please don't pick it apart. In the purist sense it is true. I think most studies have shown (and by this I mean Criminal Minds and Law and Order SVU) that pedofiles will eventually act on a human. That they may lie dormant for a while, but they will offend someday. And they will repeat. So why make CGI? This might take someone from a gold star offender to a full blown offender because it is easier to access and easier to spiral down into the sickness. I do understand the fine line of showing a violent rape in a movie to evoke emotion, but porn is SO different from an artistic movie. No matter how much soft focus and storyline is involved, you're watching the movie to get off. That is the purpose. |
I believe I found the answer to Keith's airline problem, write a song! ...and have it go viral
It worked for some dude, he had a problem with United Airlines (they mishandled his $3500 guitar, on arrival to his destination he found his guitar broken) United Breaks Guitars In the song he tells every detail of the story, including the names of the people he had to deal with. |
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And I know about the magic pedophiles from Savage Love, where people have written in to discuss it (anonymously because to do so otherwise would certainly lead to problems, and obviously this anecdotal evidence depends on taking people at their word, but as I understand it, for every pedophile who acts, there are likely some number of those who don't). Also, about the prevalence of kiddie porn, I don't know how familiar people are with Doug Stanhope's bit about it, but (to paraphrase), he talks about how people complain about how prevalent it is, but that he's never actually found it online, and he's looked for lots of shit, and found lots of other crazy shit, so (something like) "if pedophilia is happening as much as people think, then cock-fingering is happening in this room right now." And that's not to take away from the fact that (of course) the pedo video market is abusive and exploitative and bad. But nowhere did anyone say that gold star magic pedophiles are participating in it. Maybe some are, which makes them like a silver or bronze star, comparatively, but I would say that some probably aren't. Maybe some of them draw their own kiddie porn caricatures, use it to get off, and then burn it so no one can ever find it. It seems to me that the answer to the real big question here is impossible to do anything but speculate about: will fake kid porn help fewer kids be molested? Either way, it's a risk. But it does also seem to me that if child porn is being created all the time, it's because the demand for it exists, and if the system could be infiltrated and that demand could be met by CGI child porn, then fewer actual kids would be actually traumatized by their participation. (Not that I know how to do such an infiltration, or if this seems feasible. Just philosophically, it seems possible.) PS What if we could figure out which kids were sociopaths from a young age? Like Dexter? And just use them, because they're NOT innocent. Eh? Anyone? |
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