1356: Well Enough

[punk'n]

Somebody give Lucas a BJ in April!!! He sounds pretty cool. I have ladies to tend to, so somebody step it up!

[Cretaceous Bob]

Originally Posted by FletchLives

people are definitely skeptics. of course they believe all the things they've been fed their whole life, that doesn't make them not skeptics. if i were to proclaim that i was a messenger of God, very few people would follow me. basically all i'm saying is that Mormanism would never work if Joseph Smith was in our time.
there are cult leaders, but no Christian saints canonized for anything other than service to the community. otherwise George W. Bush could be nominated for sainthood for fighting the Muslims. (pahahahaha)

EDIT: you guys should look up the definition of "skeptic"

Your reasoning here seems to be that since people will not believe that you are a messenger of God, they cannot be gullible. That's dumb. Not only do many people believe that there are messengers of God around right now, but most of the world thinks that God had people write a book for them. I don't know how many skeptics you know, but skepticism kind of loses its meaning if it doesn't have a problem with Christian faith.

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

When 80% of Americans believe in angels, I have to say I agree with Bob on this one. Most people are NOT skeptics. The general public is better educated than they were hundreds of years ago when most of them were peasants working in fields. We have a basic understanding of science and nature, and of course most of us can read which was not the case for much of history. But we are not skeptics.

Precisely. The lies change, the people don't.

[Blitzgal]

I feel awful for Lucas. I had terrible social anxiety all through college to the point where I'd be throwing up before class if I had to do a presentation.

As Junk said, there is definitely an issue with these drugs being over-prescribed, however I think it's a mistake to avoid seeing a therapist in fear that they will just throw you on a drug (don't worry Junk, I'm not saying this is what you meant). Therapy doesn't help everyone. It didn't help me, and I will admit that. For me having supportive friends and just growing up and understanding myself better helped more. BUT you owe it to yourself to try to find someone to talk to that you can trust, to see if it helps.

I also do not think you are a "piece of shit" for developing feelings for someone. You are mature enough to understand that your feelings did not obligate her to reciprocate. That puts you leagues ahead of other people who get angry and bitter at the other person for not liking you back. She clearly felt uncomfortable that you kept bringing it up but you obviously understand that and that will only help you interact with people in the future.

But seriously, please talk to someone. It sucks going through depression alone. Man, I remember spending days at a time in bed because I just couldn't deal with anything. By the time I was 25 it had started to get better and now I'm 34 and I don't even have my periods of "melancholy," as I used to call them. I want to just say "it gets better" but everyone is different.

[FletchLives]

Originally Posted by Cretaceous Bob

Your reasoning here seems to be that since people will not believe that you are a messenger of God, they cannot be gullible. That's dumb. Not only do many people believe that there are messengers of God around right now, but most of the world thinks that God had people write a book for them. I don't know how many skeptics you know, but skepticism kind of loses its meaning if it doesn't have a problem with Christian faith.

Precisely. The lies change, the people don't.

skepticism is to not believe in something introduced. from what you're saying, it would be impossible for a Christian to be skeptical at all. of course a Christian would not be skeptical of what they believe to be true, that doesn't even make sense.
your looking at skepticism as a base of belief. which, there probably is some religion of in this world, but that's not the topic here.
skepticism is not a blanket belief.

[Junkenstein]

when i did therapy, the doctor was still of the old school type, who hardly prescribed meds. I didnt have the patience to go through, and i didnt have people who backed me up on it. my father was and still is a big med abuser, who gave me sleeping pills when i was a kid, so i would fall asleep easier. So, before actually using meds, i actually thought they could be the only solution, where "talk only" therapy was useless.

One of the other doctors i saw, used the phrase (which still creeps me out to this day), "depression is a disease that only chemistry can cure or suppress. all you have to do is give in and trust me".

I think a non-medical therapy can be helpful, but it seems that nowadays that doesnt exist anymore, since doctors are slaves of the pharama companies and make more money as pushers than doctors.

[Blitzgal]

Originally Posted by FletchLives

of course a Christian would not be skeptical of what they believe to be true, that doesn't even make sense.

This sentence does not make sense. By definition, simply falling back on their own religious faith means that they are not skeptics.

[Medium Brumski]

Even though it was awesome, being that much older and bigger then someone I don't think a body slam is the way to go, he should have just shoved the little kid to the ground, he didn't need to break his face. Unless there's more to the story, and after having shoved the kid numerous times in the past, he was still harassing him, then sure, end it for good.
Reminds me of the Wedding/Fight situation, where Keith was so much bigger then the King of Everything, he even suggested he should have just kept on picking up and throwing the guy. Chemda talked about how being so much bigger, you had to be extra careful, even if the little guy deserves a beating.

And I thought it was weird that the first show Lucas is on is all about how fucked up his head is, don't we usually get a couple episodes to get to know a new guest before we hear all about their suicide attempts and social anxieties.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by Medium Brumski

Even though it was awesome, being that much older and bigger then someone I don't think a body slam is the way to go, he should have just shoved the little kid to the ground, he didn't need to break his face. Unless there's more to the story, and after having shoved the kid numerous times in the past, he was still harassing him, then sure, end it for good.

There's no way a kid that outsized gets to the point of punching that kid in the face repeatedly on the first try. There's no way they are set up to record it on the first try. They thought they knew how it would go because they'd had rehearsals.

Still, the kid could have run away. Which I'm glad he didn't do, but self-defense is becoming less and less of an excuse, legally speaking. New Jersey has no self-defense rule. And they are never on the forefront of anything so there must be other states that operate that way as well. If they were in New Jersey (and old enough) the big kid could be in jail.

Suspension does seem stupid in general as a punishment, like Chemda said, but even more specifically in this case, I wish the bully didn't get suspended. In 21 days he might not have that limp anymore and he should have to walk around school with it for as long as possible.

[HeyAnne]

Originally Posted by FletchLives

i wish it were that easy now.
"hey guys, Jesus wants me to fuck all these girls in his name... no really, it's God's will."

This is how Joseph Smith got the mormons to believe and embrace polygamy.

[HeyAnne]

Originally Posted by FletchLives

people are definitely skeptics. of course they believe all the things they've been fed their whole life, that doesn't make them not skeptics. if i were to proclaim that i was a messenger of God, very few people would follow me. basically all i'm saying is that Mormanism would never work if Joseph Smith was in our time.
there are cult leaders, but no Christian saints canonized for anything other than service to the community. otherwise George W. Bush could be nominated for sainthood for fighting the Muslims. (pahahahaha)

EDIT: you guys should look up the definition of "skeptic"

I think there would be no religion if Google was around 2000 plus years ago.