1356: Well Enough

[poingjam]

It was nice to get it all out in the open. It's a big part of who I am and how I work, and I don't feel like I have to put on a show of normalcy for anything related to the show now. Thanks to everyone for being accepting and friendly and all that other rainbowy mess.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by poingjam

It was nice to get it all out in the open. It's a big part of who I am and how I work, and I don't feel like I have to put on a show of normalcy. Thanks to everyone for being accepting and friendly and all that other rainbowy mess.

Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like you're all that abnormal. Rarely can one story carry an entire show, so that was pretty amazing.

Still hate your laugh though.

[FletchLives]

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

This sentence does not make sense. By definition, simply falling back on their own religious faith means that they are not skeptics.

did you read the end of the sentence, dear?

Originally Posted by HeyAnne

This is how Joseph Smith got the mormons to believe and embrace polygamy.

Joseph Smith is who i wa refrencing. how could you not know that when you quoted the post in which i mentioned Joseph Smith and how that would not work today.

[Cretaceous Bob]

Originally Posted by FletchLives

skepticism is to not believe in something introduced. from what you're saying, it would be impossible for a Christian to be skeptical at all.

Yes, that is what I'm saying.

Skeptics, in the sense we are using it, tend to be empirical. If I tell you I just dug up the remains of a 15 foot tall giant and I'm going to charge you 25 cents to see it, you are not a skeptic if you believe me. In the same way, you are not a skeptic if you don't question the Christian beliefs and find them to be adequately supported by evidence.

You're saying nonsense with "it's not a belief system". So no religious belief is too absurd to disqualify someone from being a skeptic? That's dumb. All Christianity is is something someone else tells you. I would hope that skepticism starts with not believing shit that people just tell you.

[FletchLives]

Originally Posted by Cretaceous Bob

Yes, that is what I'm saying.

Skeptics, in the sense we are using it, tend to be empirical. If I tell you I just dug up the remains of a 15 foot tall giant and I'm going to charge you 25 cents to see it, you are not a skeptic if you believe me. In the same way, you are not a skeptic if you don't question the Christian beliefs and find them to be adequately supported by evidence.

You're saying nonsense with "it's not a belief system". So no religious belief is too absurd to disqualify someone from being a skeptic? That's dumb. All Christianity is is something someone else tells you. I would hope that skepticism starts with not believing shit that people just tell you.

how am i saying nonsense? what i said addresses everything you've tried to refute in this post. you still think that skepticism is a belief or a religion by some means.
so you are once again saying that Christian cannot be skeptic. what if a Christian doesn't believe you when you tell them you dug up a giant? what does that make them? because by your logic they can't be skeptics.

[dEadERest]

i always liked that keet calls me out at the end of the movie trailer

[Cretaceous Bob]

Originally Posted by FletchLives

how am i saying nonsense? what i said addresses everything you've tried to refute in this post. you still think that skepticism is a belief or a religion by some means.
so you are once again saying that Christian cannot be skeptic. what if a Christian doesn't believe you when you tell them you dug up a giant? what does that make them? because by your logic they can't be skeptics.

Dude, are you trying to tell me that anyone who doesn't believe a single dumb thing are skeptics? Because then everyone is a skeptic.

Allow me to repeat myself: skeptics start being skeptics by not believing shit someone tells them with no evidence. Christianity is precisely that. In fact, it super helps if something is internally inconsistent and contradictory and logically faulty, which Christianity is.

Christianity is not just one of a billion different religious beliefs. Christianity is uniquely dumb and defeats itself. Because it is a 2000 year old pile of dogshit and not a legitimate religious belief that a skeptical person arrives at.

You seem to have entirely missed the point with my Cardiff Giant comparison; they both provide equal levels of evidence. If someone would not be a skeptic if they believed one, they are not a skeptic if they believe the other.

It is especially odd that you are fighting me on the religion thing because one of two primary definitions of skeptic according to Merriam-Webster is: "a person disposed to skepticism especially regarding religion or religious principles". The other is just someone who believes in skepticism. Now let's look at skepticism: "1: an attitude of doubt or a disposition to incredulity either in general or toward a particular object
2a : the doctrine that true knowledge or knowledge in a particular area is uncertain
b : the method of suspended judgment, systematic doubt, or criticism characteristic of skeptics
3: doubt concerning basic religious principles (as immortality, providence, and revelation)"

Every single definition requires a person not to be Christian in order to be a skeptic. A Christian can be skeptical about the Cardiff Giant, but they are not, in general, a skeptic.

In short, you are dumb, stop trying to argue with Bob, and don't tell people to look up the definition of a word you haven't actually looked up.

[Blitzgal]

Originally Posted by Cretaceous Bob

Dude, are you trying to tell me that anyone who doesn't believe a single dumb thing are skeptics? Because then everyone is a skeptic.

That seems to be exactly how he is attempting to prove his first assertion that most people today are skeptics.

[FletchLives]

Originally Posted by Cretaceous Bob

Dude, are you trying to tell me that anyone who doesn't believe a single dumb thing are skeptics? Because then everyone is a skeptic.

2a : the doctrine that true knowledge or knowledge in a particular area is uncertain

such a long post but you contradicted yourself and showed my point. you couldn't answer my question of what you would call a person who is skeptical.
everyone that is capable of any rational thought proccess is most likely a skeptic in a particular area. i've only used Christians as an example because it is the group that was being discussed with the whole sainthood conversation.
you really can't prove me wrong here Bob the Almighty. all you've done is picked apart "skeptic" and it's meaing to try to make point that i've shown you is wrong.

EDIT: i want all of you to challenge what i've said after reading this discussion. prove me wrong bitches

[Medium Brumski]

Originally Posted by FletchLives

such a long post but you contradicted yourself and showed my point. you couldn't answer my question of what you would call a person who is skeptical.

You would call them "a person who is skeptical"

Originally Posted by FletchLives

EDIT: i want all of you to challenge what i've said after reading this discussion. prove me wrong bitches

Sorry, I'm siding with Bob on this one, there is a difference between being able to identify someone as a skeptic, and someone who is capable of being skeptical.
You're trying to say that someone who is skeptical of anything is automatically a skeptic? Then you would have to qualify pretty much all of humanity as skeptics, at which point the word would be meaningless.