Originally Posted by Blitzgal (Post 707766)

I still feel bad, because I fully agree with Keith and Chemda when they say that people under 25 still aren't grown. I didn't even realize how freakin' dumb I was at twenty until I was in my late twenties. I guess naive is the word I would use.

Originally Posted by Junkenstein (Post 707767)

yeah, but still if you're a rich daddy's boy who thinks that he should live in the forest cause its "a self discovery", i want you dead before you reproduce, even if you're young and silly.

Originally Posted by Junkenstein (Post 707761)

exactly. plus i have an undying love for classic directing, done on FILM and with a panoramic screen (thats why i love the direction tarantino is going, but i digress).

especially in horror, where there used to be some amazing filmmakers once, now everything is shaky cam, mtv jump cuts and LOUD NOISE scares. or if it isnt, its all about faking how "extreme" your movie is and not actually doing anything worth watching (like the human centipede thing).

with all the shit Avatar had, at least its a distinctly non-shaky movie.

Originally Posted by Snarky (Post 707710)

There is a huge problem with nutrition in our country, mainly because we don’t understand how it affects us. If you follow an organic, all raw, all plant based diet, you are almost promised not to get any type of cancer or any chronic diseases. You can reverse the diseases you already have too. I know it sounds extreme to the general public, but the food you eat does matter.... You can reverse cancer, Max Gerson proved that in the 1940’s. I highly recommend anyone looking into the Gerson Therapy or watching “The Gerson Miracle”.

Originally Posted by mcbane89 (Post 707729)

"When you consider McCandless from my perspective, you quickly see that what he did wasn't even particularly daring, just stupid, tragic, and inconsiderate. First off, he spent very little time learning how to actually live in the wild. He arrived at the Stampede Trail without even a map of the area. If he [had] had a good map he could have walked out of his predicament [... ] Essentially, Chris McCandless committed suicide."

Originally Posted by Snarky (Post 707744)

You are absolutely right about vegans, and I’d like to point out I’m not really big on labeling anyone. I don’t like to call myself a vegan, or a vegetarian for that matter. If a person is eating only celery and cabbage, they can call themselves a vegan, but they’re not healthier than anyone who eats just lunchmeat and cheese. Balanced nutrition takes knowledge on what your body needs. The general public is not informed on what their bodies need. They know: Fast food = bad.. veggies = good.. (<- say that in cookie monster voice.) But they don’t understand the implementing of this reality.

When talking about organics, I completely agree. The impoverished really do take a back seat when it comes to the concern of our socieyt. I guess when I say ‘people’ I mean to say society.. ?.. It’s hard to find someone to point a finger at. Our main focus as a society is on frivolous luxuries such as automobiles and houses. In my opinion, you should pay as much as possible for the food you put in your body. Your house doesn’t represent you, neither does your car. Your body is your main vehicle. If you treat it like shit, eat shit, you are going to feel like shit and you’re going to get sick and die sooner.

When it comes to environment, at least your physical outdoor surroundings, your body knows how to adapt. You can reverse cancer, Max Gerson proved that in the 1940’s. I highly recommend anyone looking into the Gerson Therapy or watching “The Gerson Miracle”. If we are walking around toxic environment while we are malnourished, our immune systems don’t stand a fighting chance. We are the ones who make the ultimate decision to eat foods conveniently, but it’s not fully understood that this can lead to so many side effects including a premature, painful death. Environmental issues are definitely something to shake your finger at, please don’t think I’m brushing that off. But it starts with us. I hate that we are being mislead by advertising and the media to believe that this is all a mystery. It’s not a mystery, it’s just more profitable to have a nation full of sick, pill popping drones.

In another aspect of environment, that I think leads to the biggest issue, is your environment at home. If your parents aren’t taught the way to properly nourish their bodies with nutrition, then they are never going to teach it to their children. Unless they take some time to look into it, but that’s rare. I can see why people think obesity is a genetic disorder, but it’s more of a social disorder than anything. People accept that they will get type 2 diabetes because 90% of their family has it. The thought of that makes me sick. A lot of people would say they’re lazy, I say their uneducated and misinformed.

It’s all about convenience. It’s not convenient to tell the general public that we are killing ourselves with shit food. It’s not convenient for the prescription drug companies to admit that you can cure yourselves with the most natural plant based diet. It’s not convenient to go home and make a salad with fresh veggies for dinner. It’s not convenient to pay more for organic. I think I’m starting to sound like an asshole, that’s not my goal. With all that said, I think Trader Joe’s is doing a pretty good job of making organic produce more convenient. High 5 for Trader Joe’s.

Be looking for my book in about 30 years when I finally gather all my thoughts and compile them. it’ll be called “Convenience is Killing Us”, by Mendy Ray.

Originally Posted by sierra (Post 707820)

and constant prying into guests private lives even when it is obvious she is annoying them

Originally Posted by Junkenstein (Post 707819)

or you'll look like an asshole.

Originally Posted by Vision (Post 707817)

I'm excited that Chemda will have her own show, though my reasons aren't exactly pure. I really hope this is the beginning of the end for Chemda on the show. I've been a longtime listener, but for the last year I like her less with every show. Nowadays I can hardly stand her; I won't bother saying why. Look, I know this is kind of nasty, but I want Keith to know I look forward to the day it's just him or "the girl" becomes someone else or whatever. I so look forward to hearing about everything on his mind...in fact, now it's all I look forward to. I love the guests too, of course. I wish Chemda success on her new show, so much that she won't have time for this one. I'm a bastard, I know, but I'm hoping posts like this make it happen sooner than later. Maybe I'm alone here...whatevs...I never use these forums so I wouldn't know.

Originally Posted by scumbag (Post 707806)

"Max Gerson (18 October 1881–8 March 1959) was a German physician who developed the Gerson Therapy, an alternative dietary therapy which he claimed could cure cancer and most chronic, degenerative diseases. Gerson described his approach in the book A Cancer Therapy: Results of 50 Cases. However, when Gerson's claims were independently evaluated by the National Cancer Institute (NCI), it was found that Gerson's records lacked the basic information necessary to systematically evaluate his claims. The NCI concluded that Gerson's data showed no benefit from his treatment.[1] The therapy is considered scientifically unsupported and potentially hazardous"

Sounds awesome, where do I sign up?

Originally Posted by DWarrior (Post 707835)

When I was growing up in Russia, I had Nutella on bread for breakfast. I've never had health problems or weight problems. And as part of my chores, I had to go grocery shopping, which included buying beer. I didn't grow up to be an alcoholic.

Originally Posted by DWarrior (Post 707835)

When I was growing up in Russia, I had Nutella on bread for breakfast. I've never had health problems or weight problems. And as part of my chores, I had to go grocery shopping, which included buying beer. I didn't grow up to be an alcoholic.

Originally Posted by Rufio (Post 707841)

Don't you mean nutella had you for breakfast?

Originally Posted by Vision (Post 707817)

I so look forward to hearing about everything on his mind...in fact, now it's all I look forward to.

Originally Posted by sierra (Post 707820)

I totally agree with you,I think Chemda ruins the show with her pseudo psychology and constant prying into guests private lives even when it is obvious she is annoying them.She is not remotely funny and increasingly comes across as bitter,inarticulate and self obsessed.The show would be so much better without her.

Originally Posted by scumbag (Post 707806)

"Max Gerson (18 October 1881–8 March 1959) was a German physician who developed the Gerson Therapy, an alternative dietary therapy which he claimed could cure cancer and most chronic, degenerative diseases. Gerson described his approach in the book A Cancer Therapy: Results of 50 Cases. However, when Gerson's claims were independently evaluated by the National Cancer Institute (NCI), it was found that Gerson's records lacked the basic information necessary to systematically evaluate his claims. The NCI concluded that Gerson's data showed no benefit from his treatment.[1] The therapy is considered scientifically unsupported and potentially hazardous"

Sounds awesome, where do I sign up?

Originally Posted by Snarky (Post 707957)

Maybe it won't. I don't give a fuck either way.

Originally Posted by Snarky (Post 707957)

Seemed like a better option to me than chemo, where they literally kill you and bring you back. This therapy is the opposite of chemo. They pump you full of green veggie juices to supercharge your immune system. I'm sure you can find a ton of negative info on it, but reading through some of the testemonials might change your opinon. Maybe it won't. I don't give a fuck either way.

Originally Posted by Blitzgal (Post 708002)

Again, you leave out the constant coffee enemas they stick up your ass. Explain to me how that detoxifies your body. Especially considering that this treatment has left many people with bleeding bowels.

In 1990, a study done in Austria did have limited beneficial results when following a diet regimen similar to the Gerson plan, in that cancer patients lived an additional two years compared to those who did not follow the diet. When you're dying of cancer, two additional years of life is great. But they still died of cancer. Claims that this diet "reverses" or "cures" cancer are sheer bullshit. Unfortunately there currently is no cure for cancer.

Originally Posted by Snarky (Post 708007)

I completely understand your skepticism, and my main focus isn’t to persuade you to think this is only option. I’m just wanting to make a point of understanding, because any type of holistic approach to medicine is so shunned in society. Did you know the library of congress won’t even publish a book on orthomolecular treatment, like the Gerson Therapy? I know it sounds crazy giving yourself enemas, let alone putting coffee in them. But enemas naturally detox the liver. The caffeine in the diluted organic coffee speeds up the detox process. It triggers your liver to release all the toxins. There are several studies showing the benefits of coffee enemas. (and all enemas carry the risk of anal rupture if you just “jab” the hose up there) The juice is then used to boost the immune system to pump out the toxins and repair the damage. What I don’t think is commonly understood is that our bodies have the ability to stand up against environmental toxins as long as our immune system can defend them. We won’t get cancer if we aren’t weak. We won’t be weak if we don’t eat shit foods. There are definitely genetic factors that play into cancer, and there are people who fail on the Gerson Therapy, just like with chemo. But think about the overall outlook of the options. Would you prefer to spend the last few years of your life with toxic chemicals running through your veins, puking ever time you think about food, and losing your hair? This therapy is not a common practice, but it does work.

Brave-Souls.com - Fighting Cancer Around the World
GRO - Effects of combined dietary regime on patients with malignant tumors
Gerson Therapy U.S Office of Technology Assessment

Originally Posted by mcbane89 (Post 708019)

Well, the reason orthomolecular treatment can't get published by the library of congress is probably because the military took it off their approved insurance program for military dependents when the US Defense Subcommittee did some thorough testing on the method and found it to be potentially dangerous. Orthomolecular treatment is essentially just mega doses of vitamins, with the theory being that these doses will correct imbalances in the subject, and fix any number of psychiatric, or physical ailments. The problem with that is vitamins, when taken in large enough doses, stop being vitamins and start becoming drugs that can be very harmful. For example, one of the vitamins used is B6, and the daily dose recommended is over 600 mg per day, which is well above what is known to cause nerve damage.

Another reason it isn't taken seriously is because the proponents refuse to do testing with a scientific methodology. To be taken seriously an idea has to be passed through a very organized, well documented, controlled series of tests. These tests have to be done over and over inside a particular lab. Then the data and methodology needs to be reviewed outside of that. Then the findings need to be replicated outside of that lab using the same methodology. Once all of these things are done, and verified, the theory is given scientific weight. Even then it depends on if we're talking cellular tests v animal tests v human tests. You have to be very careful when looking at something that says "testing shows" because yeah, sure, one test one time could have shown an effect and then it was never reproduced. Or the methodology was sloppy, or not released, or there was a small sample, it wasn't double blind, etc etc. This is the exact issue with orthomolecular treatments (and also the Gerson treatment from the little I just read), there are no controlled, methodolgically sound, testing. And in the case of orthomolecular it's been proven dangerous just on the scientific basis of the effects of vitamins in those doses.