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Junkenstein 08-05-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mcbane89 (Post 707736)
Oh, and @LaurenHennessey: BangBus used to be real! They sold out and decided to start using porn actresses after they got a little cash. .

yeah. i read a book about the porn industry, made mostly of interviews with porn actors and directors and it was an example cited as one of the symbols of the downfall of "regular" porn. gonzo killed the golden age, web porn killed gonzo, then there was bang bus where any form of production was wiped out cause the sudience wanted "realism" (which, honestly, i dont get. if i want to fap to realistic stuff, why use porn? i can do that for free)

Snarky 08-05-2011 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by swiggy (Post 707723)
What do you think of the following blog entry from a former Vegan?
A Vegan No More

Saying a "raw" diet will almost promise not to get cancers/diseases is something you should be cautious about saying, IMO it's a false hope (a big maybe). Plus many vegans don't follow that lifestyle diet properly and neglect their body.

On the topic of cancer and diet... If it were true, just diet, there would be more emphasis in cancer prevention and not "finding a cure" and there would be lower rates of middle to high income earners who get this disease. Don't get me wrong, I want a cure... But it seems this is a safety net to say to those who are afraid because a friend or a family member has had it in the past. It's something we can control tangibly, obsess over healthy living and it helps to forget the other factors.

There are so many other factors in a person other than diet that causes these illnesses, such as past history, physical activity, where you live (environment), your economic status, mental health etc. So what works for one may not work for another. Many skin cancers are neglect of prevention of protection of UVA/UVB rays. Dysgerminoma (Germ Cell Tumor) Ovarian cancer is still considered rare because it happens when the ovum is released and fails to migrate properly.

I say this as an ovarian cancer survivor (one spoken above) and experiencing it first hand at 15 years old; first in my province to have that kind of cancer at my age and 3rd in all of Canada at the time (2001). When speaking to doctors and RN's, I was surprised to learn how much goes into how to get rid of it instead of how to prevent it, and when you look into fundraisers a bit closer, it's advancements on treatment and not a cure (I'm sure politics from pharmaceuticals is a factor there) that gets the most money. Plus think of how many cooperations will lose millions, maybe more, because they can no longer use "breast cancer" (example) as a marketing tool? As sick as that sounds, it's reality. A lot of product sells because it has that pink ribbon on it.

I believe there is more to it than just "not understanding nutrition" for a lot of people, and poverty is a big one. If you're trying, and organic banana is 6 dollars and one with pesticides is only 2, you're on a tight budget, you'll go for the 2 dollar one. And it's thanks to human genetic mutation of certain seeds that places can grow their crops in severe weather conditions whereas those people would die off from starvation.

If you have the option to eat organic, great. I really hope it does prove beneficial. If you see those who don't, not the best to jump to lack reason of knowledge/understanding for everybody. But we can all agree that blatant ignorance (like you mentioned giving a young child a large coke and a (I assume) peperoni pizza or you only eat take-out, fast food or eating Nutella thinking it's healthy), should be pointed out and corrected as much as possible.

*throws two pennies at the forum*

You are absolutely right about vegans, and Iíd like to point out Iím not really big on labeling anyone. I donít like to call myself a vegan, or a vegetarian for that matter. If a person is eating only celery and cabbage, they can call themselves a vegan, but theyíre not healthier than anyone who eats just lunchmeat and cheese. Balanced nutrition takes knowledge on what your body needs. The general public is not informed on what their bodies need. They know: Fast food = bad.. veggies = good.. (<- say that in cookie monster voice.) But they donít understand the implementing of this reality.

When talking about organics, I completely agree. The impoverished really do take a back seat when it comes to the concern of our socieyt. I guess when I say Ďpeopleí I mean to say society.. ?.. Itís hard to find someone to point a finger at. Our main focus as a society is on frivolous luxuries such as automobiles and houses. In my opinion, you should pay as much as possible for the food you put in your body. Your house doesnít represent you, neither does your car. Your body is your main vehicle. If you treat it like shit, eat shit, you are going to feel like shit and youíre going to get sick and die sooner.

When it comes to environment, at least your physical outdoor surroundings, your body knows how to adapt. You can reverse cancer, Max Gerson proved that in the 1940ís. I highly recommend anyone looking into the Gerson Therapy or watching ďThe Gerson MiracleĒ. If we are walking around toxic environment while we are malnourished, our immune systems donít stand a fighting chance. We are the ones who make the ultimate decision to eat foods conveniently, but itís not fully understood that this can lead to so many side effects including a premature, painful death. Environmental issues are definitely something to shake your finger at, please donít think Iím brushing that off. But it starts with us. I hate that we are being mislead by advertising and the media to believe that this is all a mystery. Itís not a mystery, itís just more profitable to have a nation full of sick, pill popping drones.

In another aspect of environment, that I think leads to the biggest issue, is your environment at home. If your parents arenít taught the way to properly nourish their bodies with nutrition, then they are never going to teach it to their children. Unless they take some time to look into it, but thatís rare. I can see why people think obesity is a genetic disorder, but itís more of a social disorder than anything. People accept that they will get type 2 diabetes because 90% of their family has it. The thought of that makes me sick. A lot of people would say theyíre lazy, I say their uneducated and misinformed.

Itís all about convenience. Itís not convenient to tell the general public that we are killing ourselves with shit food. Itís not convenient for the prescription drug companies to admit that you can cure yourselves with the most natural plant based diet. Itís not convenient to go home and make a salad with fresh veggies for dinner. Itís not convenient to pay more for organic. I think Iím starting to sound like an asshole, thatís not my goal. With all that said, I think Trader Joeís is doing a pretty good job of making organic produce more convenient. High 5 for Trader Joeís.

Be looking for my book in about 30 years when I finally gather all my thoughts and compile them. itíll be called ďConvenience is Killing UsĒ, by Mendy Ray.

mcbane89 08-05-2011 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dEadERest (Post 707740)
i thought of him as bear food delivery.
now i really wanna know and i hope it's racist
http://blastr.com/assets_c/2009/11/S...x388-28373.jpg

It's not as racist as anything Carlos Mencia has done, but it's pretty damn racist.

mcbane89 08-05-2011 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkenstein (Post 707742)
yeah. i read a book about the porn industry, made mostly of interviews with porn actors and directors and it was an example cited as one of the symbols of the downfall of "regular" porn. gonzo killed the golden age, web porn killed gonzo, then there was bang bus where any form of production was wiped out cause the sudience wanted "realism" (which, honestly, i dont get. if i want to fap to realistic stuff, why use porn? i can do that for free)

I like some of the reality porn, but it's like anything. In the hands of someone clever it can be good, in the hands of half wits it can be tedious. Once it becomes popular there are a million copycats. When the matrix came out everyone did wire fighting, when Blair Witch came out every dumb shit tried using the shaky handheld camera thing. Sites like Bang Bus and Midnight Prowl used to be somewhat "legit" (anything filmed, even documentaries, are never completely legit), hell Midnight Prowl actually got into some serious legal trouble, and as soon as they got popular everyone copied them. It could swing back around to more production value centered stuff, but unlike a feature film it doesn't cost $100million to get the moneyshot. It's basically porn for the ADD generation.

Oh, and if anyone wants to defend "realistic" movies, arthouse movies, or student film - I went to film school and we were all pretentious douches, and all of our work was terrible.

Junkenstein 08-05-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mcbane89 (Post 707750)
žOh, and if anyone wants to defend "realistic" movies, arthouse movies, or student film - I went to film school new were all pretentious douches, and all of our work was terrible.

THIS!

i remember all the new wave of shoulder cam, fake real movies and how all the filmschool snobs i know (theres a film school in turin, so pretty much 90% of people i know were film students or cinephiles) were waxing poetics about it saying that "Paranormal Reality" was the future of movies, cause it created "a sense of participation" and yadafuckinyada.

then that fad died and they were all over "classic cinema" again.

i still cant stand that style. i like movies that look good.

mcbane89 08-05-2011 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkenstein (Post 707753)
THIS!

i remember all the new wave of shoulder cam, fake real movies and how all the filmschool snobs i know (theres a film school in turin, so pretty much 90% of people i know were film students or cinephiles) were waxing poetics about it saying that "Paranormal Reality" was the future of movies, cause it created "a sense of participation" and yadafuckinyada.

then that fad died and they were all over "classic cinema" again.

i still cant stand that style. i like movies that look good.

Oh God. I know that pain first hand. I went to film school in San Francisco (imagine what that was like), and trying to explain to the other students and teachers I wanted a job that actually paid me money, and produced "normal looking" films, was met with blank stares much akin to when I ask my terrier to round Pi out to the 136,000th decimal place. The amount of god awful, pretentious, pointless, offensive, student films that are permanantly burned into my brain would be enough to drive most people insane. The camera doesn't always have to be moving, your edits don't have to cause seizures, sound is a good thing to have so I know what the hell is going on, and for God's sake the first three things I mentioned DO NOT mean you don't have to have a plot!

Blitzgal 08-05-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by punk'n (Post 707730)
That was my initial reaction to that movie. Maybe Keith is right about the age thing. I never thought of the lead character as brave or inspirational. I thought of him as a dummy who killed himself. But I am old and jaded.


Me too, and the fact that other little dumbshit 20 year olds are making pilgrimages to the site means that he's potentially taking others with him.

Junkenstein 08-05-2011 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mcbane89 (Post 707757)
Oh God. I know that pain first hand. I went to film school in San Francisco (imagine what that was like), and trying to explain to the other students and teachers I wanted a job that actually paid me money, and produced "normal looking" films, was met with blank stares much akin to when I ask my terrier to round Pi out to the 136,000th decimal place. The amount of god awful, pretentious, pointless, offensive, student films that are permanantly burned into my brain would be enough to drive most people insane. The camera doesn't always have to be moving, your edits don't have to cause seizures, sound is a good thing to have so I know what the hell is going on, and for God's sake the first three things I mentioned DO NOT mean you don't have to have a plot!

exactly. plus i have an undying love for classic directing, done on FILM and with a panoramic screen (thats why i love the direction tarantino is going, but i digress).

especially in horror, where there used to be some amazing filmmakers once, now everything is shaky cam, mtv jump cuts and LOUD NOISE scares. or if it isnt, its all about faking how "extreme" your movie is and not actually doing anything worth watching (like the human centipede thing).

with all the shit Avatar had, at least its a distinctly non-shaky movie.

Junkenstein 08-05-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blitzgal (Post 707758)
Me too, and the fact that other little dumbshit 20 year olds are making pilgrimages to the site means that he's potentially taking others with him.

natural selection. we can only hope, creeepy hipster genes shall extinguish.

Blitzgal 08-05-2011 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkenstein (Post 707762)
natural selection. we can only hope, creeepy hipster genes shall extinguish.


I still feel bad, because I fully agree with Keith and Chemda when they say that people under 25 still aren't grown. I didn't even realize how freakin' dumb I was at twenty until I was in my late twenties. I guess naive is the word I would use.


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