1438: Parallel Thinking

[Keith]

"You rhymed? While she's giving $20 head?"


Brother Love

[starscream]

It took me a really long time to realize that I was the weird one, not the people I lived with who never cleaned up after themselves. It continues to be frustrating, but I know it is negligence not an active thought of "I can't be bothered" or whatever. It just never occurs to them to not put the spoon on the counter, never mind to pick it up afterward. (There's a spoon on my kitchen counter right now and here I am in my room typing on the internet about it, rather than clean up after someone else.)

Anyway, it isn't disrespect. It isn't anything. It just is not and will never be how they (the majority of the world) think about things.

[invader]

When does it stop being a fight for a cause and become a self-destructive obsession? Should Louis spew bile, and vitriol at Dane every chance he gets? Should he form a sort of comedic mafia and break Dane’s legs? Or maybe Louis should command a ship of misfit sailors and follow Cook to the ends of the earth in hopes that he’ll someday get his revenge.
Dane Cook is already a superstar, the “battle” is pretty much lost. Louis can’t damage Dane’s career, so any anger or aggression that Louis C.K. would throw Danes way would only come off as petty and out of hand in most peoples eyes. I get the impression that Louis wants to just move on from the entire incident and this episode was more him pandering to the vocal minority that wants to see Louis challenge Dane to open combat and then behead him. Also Keith’s analogy is totally off, in the case of a woman getting mugged and not wanting to press chargers, there is an organized third party that takes over and enforces the punishment, regardless of the victims wishes. Until there is a state subsidized, comedy police force, this is just another fucked up unfortunate event.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by invader

I get the impression that Louis wants to just move on from the entire incident and this episode was more him pandering to the vocal minority that wants to see Louis challenge Dane to open combat and then behead him.

Moving on = having him on his show at least two years after the peak of the controversy? Moving on = having Joan Rivers make fun of Dane Cook a few episodes beforehand? I am all for this no mercy tact taken towards Dane Cook, but I don't think Louis needs to do anything about it at this point. That window has closed. Doing nothing would have been fine and no one would have though about it again. But to have him on the show, even if it was to somehow exact vengeance (which would of course be impossible), is allowing him visibility he'd otherwise not have.

I don't think the battle is over or lost. Louis C.K. gets bigger and bigger all the time, in smaller increments. Dane Cook peaked long ago. At best, having him on the show is saying "there is no battle." At worst though, it's giving Dane Cook a tiny chance at reviving the career that seemed to have waned.

[invader]

Originally Posted by starscream

Moving on = having him on his show at least two years after the peak of the controversy? Moving on = having Joan Rivers make fun of Dane Cook a few episodes beforehand? ...I don't think the battle is over or lost. Louis C.K. gets bigger and bigger all the time, in smaller increments. Dane Cook peaked long ago. At best, having him on the show is saying "there is no battle." At worst though, it's giving Dane Cook a tiny chance at reviving the career that seemed to have waned.

Good point.

Also, it may just be me but, kicking someone in throat as you pass them on the ladder of success seems hardly satisfying. He already has his millions whats a kick to the ego going to do? Danes name may not be on everyone's lips but his career is far from being on the wane.

[Junkenstein]

this will get him a creer boost. Louis' fans who regularly see the show will see the episode and go back on following cook again.

not only he got away scott free, he won some new notoriety from this. New comics should follow his example and steal more jokes.

[mcbane89]

Originally Posted by invader

When does it stop being a fight for a cause and become a self-destructive obsession? Should Louis spew bile, and vitriol at Dane every chance he gets? Should he form a sort of comedic mafia and break Dane’s legs? Or maybe Louis should command a ship of misfit sailors and follow Cook to the ends of the earth in hopes that he’ll someday get his revenge.
Dane Cook is already a superstar, the “battle” is pretty much lost. Louis can’t damage Dane’s career, so any anger or aggression that Louis C.K. would throw Danes way would only come off as petty and out of hand in most peoples eyes. I get the impression that Louis wants to just move on from the entire incident and this episode was more him pandering to the vocal minority that wants to see Louis challenge Dane to open combat and then behead him. Also Keith’s analogy is totally off, in the case of a woman getting mugged and not wanting to press chargers, there is an organized third party that takes over and enforces the punishment, regardless of the victims wishes. Until there is a state subsidized, comedy police force, this is just another fucked up unfortunate event.

I know a lot of this is rhetorical/joking, but why not? Why can't he? Why, if someone completely disrespects you and takes something from you, is it your burden to "be the bigger person"? I understand if we're talking someone cuts in front of you at the deli counter (even then if a person decided to say something I would think it was good of them to do so), but Dane Cook stole something of great value from Louis CK, traded on it for personal gain, and gives bullshit reasons why he didn't, which means he knows he was wrong, and yet the burden is on Louie to let it go? Fuck that. To this day we mock the shit out of Vanilla Ice, for a lot of obvious reasons, chief among them his idiotic response to obviously stealing from Queen/David Bowie's "Under Pressure" (and if you haven't seen the "ours goes like this, their's goes like that" clip where Vanilla explains the "differences" please check it out. Priceless. Especially for the shit eating grin he has on when he does it). I don't see how this is any different. Louie decided to let it go, and there happened to be a big monetary gain involved (which I hope isn't the sole reason, as I like Louis CK, and while I normally totally endorse "selling out" I don't when it compromises morals to this degree), but it's still basically saying what Dane, or any joke thief did, is ok. And I do think a lot of it has to do with the mentality of "it's just a joke", which is crap because it's still intellectual property.

As a little test I would like to see someone steal a whole section of a Dane Cook standup and see what his reaction would be. I bet he would lose his fucking mind.

[Cretaceous Bob]

When half of your post is parenthetical asides, you're typing too much.

[poingjam]

I greatly dislike Ray LeMoine. I hope he is unhappy.

[Blitzgal]

Originally Posted by starscream

Anyway, it isn't disrespect. It isn't anything. It just is not and will never be how they (the majority of the world) think about things.

This.

My pet peeve is the toilet. Why do you leave the seat down to piss if you know you're going to dribble all over it? And, you have the perfect aiming device. Why the fuck are you dribbling on the floor in front of the bowl? Now I just leave those cleaning wipes above the toilet and wipe it down myself. I give up.