1459: Call It!

[Keith]

"My pussy is not a stack of cash!"


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[Sashi]

I'm betting on option C winning.

[Strawdog]

Can we all agree that any act of sex involving the male domination of the woman is rape. C'mon people. All rape,all the time.

[Keith]

Don't come into my science lab and start spilling over beakers. Who let you in here anyway?

[Junkenstein]

i have this feeling that most of the results of the poll will be men trying to be assholes on the subject. the rape victims i talked to are even skittish about talking about it or using the word "rape" too loosely (and i can understand it, kinda).

at times i feel like its a variation of the N-word for women.

[fluxquanta]

Regarding the post office thing:

When I'm not listening to KATG I listen to my local NPR station here in rural upstate New York, and they talk quite a bit about the USPS situation. There are some post offices that are slated to be closed in some communities here due to lack of volume. There are some that are literally the size of travel campers that will go DAYS without a single customer coming in, yet are staffed by at least one person. You would think it would make sense that these post offices be cut, because the couple hundred or thousand rural route delivery stops could easily be transferred to a bigger branch.

So why not just cut them? These small communities (and when I say small, I mean less than a thousand people for a post office) argue that having a post office in their town "builds a sense of community" and "acts as a meeting place for the town". I've never seen people, young or old, get together to hang at the post office. It really makes no sense to me.

EDIT: And just today, another article http://www.watertowndailytimes.com/a...WS05/709119904

[Strawdog]

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

at times i feel like its a variation of the N-word for women.

When I meet a bunch of women I like to let them know I'm down so I greet them with a hearty, "Yo! Wassup ma rapists?"

[Bucho]

I'm glad anytime the No Means No message is brought to the forefront of the wider cultural discussion but did anyone ever find out the full content of the cop's rape-prevention class?

It seems very likely that the part about dressing provocatively was only one facet of a larger talk in which he - from the standpoint of a professional law officer with years of experience and education in the field - aimed to educate young women on the multiple factors which could put a woman in danger.

I doubt the officer was saying style of dress was the major factor in victimisation and I also doubt that he was making his speech from the standpoint of victim-blaming.

Originally Posted by DWarrior

I think the slut uniform mostly raises statistics of the party half-rapes where the dude fucks a half-conscious woman who can't consent. Those are probably more motivated by tits popping out than anything having to do with power.

Yep. It's dopey and dangerous to think all rapists are motivated by the same type of disfunction.

[Mattman]

I think we can agree that there are some guys out there who would think "you don't really mean NO when you are dressed like that.

Of course I am not talking about opportunistic sex attacks but rather a situation where a girl goes with a guy, but decides she does not want to have sex with him. Some guys might think that dressing provocatively is like advertising for sex, where the girl did not see it that way. And some guys refuse to believe that a girl who's dressed "slutty" really means no when she says it.

[Starline]

I understand that Keith and Chemda aren't trying to blame the victims by suggesting that what you wear can provoke a rape attack, but a lot of the opinions they were giving weren't statistically accurate at all.


This information was going around a bunch of blogs a few months ago. Google cached it here: Google Answers: Statistics: Rape cases & how the clothes of the victim is blamed?

But here are a few of the highlights from it:

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Utah State University Sexual Assault and Anti Violence Information

Myth: Rape victims provoke the attach by wearing provocative clothing

- A Federal Commission on Crime of Violence Study found that only
4.4% of all reported rapes involved provocative behavior on the part
of the victim. In murder cases 22% involved such behavior (as simple
as a glance).

- Most convicted rapists do not remember what their victims were wearing.

- Victims range in age from days old to those in their nineties,
hardly provocative dressers.


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Most sexual assault victims are wearing regular clothes like blue
jeans or pajamas when they are assaulted, not provocative clothing.

Prevention Pathways
Pathways Courses - Silence Hurts


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Like domestic violence, rape is a crime of power and control. Myths
that rape only happens to young, beautiful women wearing provocative
clothing perpetuate the idea that rape is a crime of passion, when in
fact all women are vulnerable to rape, regardless of age, race, class,
education or physical appearance. Research also shows that 60-75% of
rapes are premeditated and motivated by aggression and hatred, not
sex.?

Arizona?s State Plan on Domestic and Sexual Violence
http://www.governor.state.az.us/cyf/...%20Problem.pdf

It's not dressing up "slutty" that's making someone more likely to get raped, its looking vulnerable, or placing yourself in a vulnerable situation. A rapist is going to go after something they think is an easy target (like a robber). The shy withdrawn girl who doesn't like to seem "rude", a grandma who might not be able to fight back, a teenager who doesn't know she can say no, etc.

Pretty much every woman gets harassed or cat-called on the street. Whether you are wearing jeans, sweatpants, or a skirt. It's not hard to make the jump to realize that a rapist wouldn't give a shit about the clothing, they care about if they think can get get away with it.


And as a side note, if anyone wants to read a quick comic on how to deal with perverts in general: Sneaky VFX » Archive » Perverts
It's short, informative, and good to pass on to any kids that might have to deal with a pervert around them.