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Old 09-30-2011, 03:49 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Panic attacks have nothing to do with O2 saturation. You can hyperventilate during one and exacerbate the problem, but no source I've ever consulted makes any correlation between the onset of panic attacks and a lack or overabundance of oxygen.
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Hyperventilation syndrome — Breathing from the chest may cause overbreathing, exhaling excess carbon dioxide in relation to the amount of oxygen in one's bloodstream. Hyperventilation syndrome can cause respiratory alkalosis and hypocapnia. This syndrome often involves prominent mouth breathing as well. This causes a cluster of symptoms including rapid heart beat, dizziness, and lightheadedness which can trigger panic attacks.

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Old 09-30-2011, 04:02 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Certain chemical substances, mainly stimulants but also certain depressants, can either contribute pharmacologically to a constellation of provocations, and thus trigger a panic attack or even a panic disorder, or directly induce one. This includes caffeine, amphetamine, alcohol and many more.

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Old 09-30-2011, 04:55 AM   #33 (permalink)
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That's hyperventilation syndrome, which can trigger panic attacks. Being chased by a rabid warthog can trigger symptoms too. Doesn't mean dick. Panic disorder is defined by experiencing fight/flight symptoms in absence of external stimulus.

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Old 09-30-2011, 05:39 AM   #34 (permalink)
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That's hyperventilation syndrome, which can trigger panic attacks. Being chased by a rabid warthog can trigger symptoms too. Doesn't mean dick. Panic disorder is defined by experiencing fight/flight symptoms in absence of external stimulus.
My point was not to prove that oxygen levels are the cause of panic attacks.

Keith and Chemda were both experiencing things that I associate with my own hyperventilation experiences.
Chemda was having chest pains, and was scared that she might give herself a heart attack. Keith was concerned about his breathing after drinking too much.

I wanted to let them know that there may be a specific, physical cause, not just blanket "stress".
That this physical aspect is less scary than its effects.
That many people in our age group have had experiences like this.

When I first hyperventilated, my serioso called an ambulance, because my speech and understanding were disturbed so much he thought I was having a brain hemorrhage.
If someone had explained better, I might have been less scared, and might have been able to solve the problem sooner then I did.
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Old 09-30-2011, 12:16 PM   #36 (permalink)
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My point was not to prove that oxygen levels are the cause of panic attacks.

Keith and Chemda were both experiencing things that I associate with my own hyperventilation experiences.
Chemda was having chest pains, and was scared that she might give herself a heart attack. Keith was concerned about his breathing after drinking too much.

I wanted to let them know that there may be a specific, physical cause, not just blanket "stress".
That this physical aspect is less scary than its effects.
That many people in our age group have had experiences like this.

When I first hyperventilated, my serioso called an ambulance, because my speech and understanding were disturbed so much he thought I was having a brain hemorrhage.
If someone had explained better, I might have been less scared, and might have been able to solve the problem sooner then I did.
My bad, but that's how I took it. It's like a chicken/egg argument. Felt like someone was telling me that the reason I've been trying a babilloon different meds and square dancing with therapists for a dozen years was that I just wasn't breeving correctly.

I've been in a couple ambulances and had at least a half dozen trips to the ER, and a few blood panels and stress tests and ultrasounds. It's the worst feeling in the world. You are convinced that these are your last moments on Earth, no fucking joke.
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Old 10-01-2011, 11:19 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I totally get Chemda's desire to promote Peyton. I do that all the time. I find someone I love and they don't have motivation or their head around what it takes to "make it" and before I know it I'm spewing out idea after idea and then their eyes get big and think I'm a nut. But, hell, I've used most of my marketing ideas for my own business and they have succeeded, and I don't understand anyone that is in the arts that doesn't have motivation. You need money to make a living, you don't want to sell out, but you have to sell yourself somehow, so go get a website and start networking. It isn't that hard! Lets go!

One of my main examples is my sister. She is a fantastic painter (The Artwork of Stephanie Guidera) and I had to PUSH and NAG her to get a website. She graduated with a degree in fine art painting and they didn't teach her she needs a website and to go show her work to galleries and meet people and network? Come ON! So now I promote her as much as I can. It just seems to be that most people in the artistic field do not also have the genes that make them go getters. Not sure why that is...
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Isn't the definition of alcoholism, "bored when not drinking?"

Okay, not literally, but pretty close!
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Old 10-03-2011, 07:23 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Just listening now and I feel the same way heart-wise after drinking which is why I barely drink more than one beer anymore. Add to that the feeling of panic all the time and that breathing is always a manual task. I stop breathing constantly. Hate it.
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