1468: Sheer Heart Attack

[Namdnal Siroj]

And from Wikipedia for Keith:

Certain chemical substances, mainly stimulants but also certain depressants, can either contribute pharmacologically to a constellation of provocations, and thus trigger a panic attack or even a panic disorder, or directly induce one. This includes caffeine, amphetamine, alcohol and many more.

[panicBoy]

That's hyperventilation syndrome, which can trigger panic attacks. Being chased by a rabid warthog can trigger symptoms too. Doesn't mean dick. Panic disorder is defined by experiencing fight/flight symptoms in absence of external stimulus.

[Namdnal Siroj]

Originally Posted by panicBoy

That's hyperventilation syndrome, which can trigger panic attacks. Being chased by a rabid warthog can trigger symptoms too. Doesn't mean dick. Panic disorder is defined by experiencing fight/flight symptoms in absence of external stimulus.

My point was not to prove that oxygen levels are the cause of panic attacks.

Keith and Chemda were both experiencing things that I associate with my own hyperventilation experiences.
Chemda was having chest pains, and was scared that she might give herself a heart attack. Keith was concerned about his breathing after drinking too much.

I wanted to let them know that there may be a specific, physical cause, not just blanket "stress".
That this physical aspect is less scary than its effects.
That many people in our age group have had experiences like this.

When I first hyperventilated, my serioso called an ambulance, because my speech and understanding were disturbed so much he thought I was having a brain hemorrhage.
If someone had explained better, I might have been less scared, and might have been able to solve the problem sooner then I did.

[Medium Brumski]

Originally Posted by Keith

Medium Brumski? Please... I've never seen a bigger mess.

Why I atta!!

[panicBoy]

Originally Posted by Namdnal Siroj

My point was not to prove that oxygen levels are the cause of panic attacks.

Keith and Chemda were both experiencing things that I associate with my own hyperventilation experiences.
Chemda was having chest pains, and was scared that she might give herself a heart attack. Keith was concerned about his breathing after drinking too much.

I wanted to let them know that there may be a specific, physical cause, not just blanket "stress".
That this physical aspect is less scary than its effects.
That many people in our age group have had experiences like this.

When I first hyperventilated, my serioso called an ambulance, because my speech and understanding were disturbed so much he thought I was having a brain hemorrhage.
If someone had explained better, I might have been less scared, and might have been able to solve the problem sooner then I did.

My bad, but that's how I took it. It's like a chicken/egg argument. Felt like someone was telling me that the reason I've been trying a babilloon different meds and square dancing with therapists for a dozen years was that I just wasn't breeving correctly.

I've been in a couple ambulances and had at least a half dozen trips to the ER, and a few blood panels and stress tests and ultrasounds. It's the worst feeling in the world. You are convinced that these are your last moments on Earth, no fucking joke.

[stulagu]

I totally get Chemda's desire to promote Peyton. I do that all the time. I find someone I love and they don't have motivation or their head around what it takes to "make it" and before I know it I'm spewing out idea after idea and then their eyes get big and think I'm a nut. But, hell, I've used most of my marketing ideas for my own business and they have succeeded, and I don't understand anyone that is in the arts that doesn't have motivation. You need money to make a living, you don't want to sell out, but you have to sell yourself somehow, so go get a website and start networking. It isn't that hard! Lets go!

One of my main examples is my sister. She is a fantastic painter (The Artwork of Stephanie Guidera) and I had to PUSH and NAG her to get a website. She graduated with a degree in fine art painting and they didn't teach her she needs a website and to go show her work to galleries and meet people and network? Come ON! So now I promote her as much as I can. It just seems to be that most people in the artistic field do not also have the genes that make them go getters. Not sure why that is...

[BrianAlt]

Isn't the definition of alcoholism, "bored when not drinking?"

Okay, not literally, but pretty close!

[lizzy1e]

Just listening now and I feel the same way heart-wise after drinking which is why I barely drink more than one beer anymore. Add to that the feeling of panic all the time and that breathing is always a manual task. I stop breathing constantly. Hate it.