1487: Hate The Game

[amish J]

Blacks can vote as long as they pass the test. Same with the rest of us. If you use the testing pencil to stick something up your ass while you play with yourself in the corner during test time, maybe your opinion doesn't matter.

All is well though Blitz, you give a good back and forth.

[Junkenstein]

Originally Posted by amish J

, if you are planning on having children you should have to take SAT's prior, to see if you are smart enough to have children. .

i absolutely agree and yet i kinda fear that it would cause the extinction of humanity (although, as i often stated, it would be a GREAT thing).

[scottperezfox]

... and I have my nominations for worst guests. First time in 6 years of listening I've ever quit an episode. Just couldn't stand the one-sided arguing and misinformed political ranting from a cynical, misanthropic view.

To quote a younger Keith Malley "You really believe that? That's ridiculous."

[amish J]

absolutely, junkenstein.

[Blitzgal]

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

i absolutely agree and yet i kinda fear that it would cause the extinction of humanity (although, as i often stated, it would be a GREAT thing).

What's cute is the fact that you guys think these ideas are so revolutionary and not tired old shit that's been done in various ways for hundreds of years.

"Certain people shouldn't breed" and "certain people shouldn't be able to vote" are not new ideas.

[amish J]

New ideas, no but they are ideas that have continued to be looked upon as "immoral" or "unjust".
May not be a new subject, but the relevance of the subject still stands does it not?

I had a kid in my school during High School that we all knew as jimmy the T-Rex he ran around the school acting like a dinosaur with a helmet on.
He is of age to vote, doesn't that make you shudder just a little bit?

[astrokahn]

Originally Posted by Huggie

Yet, I understand their mindset. When a situation is so overwhelmingly fucked up it seems easy to just assume that nothing can be done to change it. Keith's pessimistic attitude may be related to him being an Atheist. Not because he doesn't believe in God, but because he doesn't have FAITH. He doesn't know how to believe in a positive outcome in the face of so many obstacles. Faith is what helped Black people survive slavery and end segregation. It's what inspired Gandhi to lead a peaceful resistance against British colonialism, and It's what motivated Nelson Mandela to lead a nation against Apartheid. The most seemingly impossible movements in history have accomplished their goals through faith.

I think that activists the world over from all points in history would be pretty pissed off if all their bravery, hard work and life-risking actions were minimized to having "had faith." I'm not talking about Occupy, I'm talking about people who actually risked their lives to free slaves, about people having the shit beat out of them during peaceful demonstrations with Ghandi, etc etc.. That isn't faith, that's the actual doing of shit.

I agree with Bill Maher "Faith is making a virtue out of not thinking."

[Junkenstein]

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

What's cute is the fact that you guys think these ideas are so revolutionary and not tired old shit that's been done in various ways for hundreds of years.

"Certain people shouldn't breed" and "certain people shouldn't be able to vote" are not new ideas.

did i ever say they were new. dont make me quote cretaceous bob and type "that is not what i said".

my only point is that the concept is partially correct, but it would fail practically cause idiots are the ones who perpetrate the species. and also the ones with the ifiotic drive to vote constantly and usually for maniulative fucks who easily buy their brain into some weird ideas.

that said, everyone should vote, not because oif some democratic ideal (cause democracy is a flawed theory based on the errouneous concept that people know what is good for them), but because if EVERYONE was forced to vote, in the end the samrt people would have a hand in the final results.

As for breeding, i think most people shouldnt breed, smart ones invluded, because most people do it as some sort of silly selfish act to fulfill their own need for living toys and cute things to put their own pèersonal failures on. But in reality, most dont deserve to be parents.

[amish J]

HA! love it

[Blitzgal]

Originally Posted by amish J

New ideas, no but they are ideas that have continued to be looked upon as "immoral" or "unjust".

We had a eugenics program in this country for the first half of the 20th century. Its proponents argued that certain lower levels of people pollute the genes of superior people. These groups included new immigrants (at that time eastern and southern Europeans), Jews, Native Americans, and blacks. One group, the Immigration Restriction League, lobbied for literacy tests to weed out "inferior races." Disgustingly, feminists like Margaret Sanger were also in favor, although she believed that the women themselves should have access to contraception and that the government should not be choosing who and who isn't allowed to breed. Tens of thousands of people were forcibly sterilized to protect "white racial health."

In theory, these folks wanted to eliminate the breeding of "feeble-minded" and "deformed" people. However, in practice they targeted people of color and immigrants. It wasn't until after WWII and the horrors of the holocaust were known that Americans started rejecting eugenics. It's a very ugly chapter in our history, and there's nothing moral about it.

Eugenics in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia