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skyelo 03-13-2012 10:48 PM

This is the first time I've ever disagreed with Patrice (and I am not pleased about it)! I have done quite a bit of research on Invisible Children, hosted an educated debate involving my high school students (I teach 12th grade and the video was produced for their age group), and I saw Jason Russell speak at a TEDx Conference last fall. I understand that the message is simplistic but it is a starting point. Invis Children is not registered as an aid organization, their focus is awareness.

I think it's just hip to be part of the backlash, just as it was hip to repost the original video the night it came out. Soon it will be hip to backlash the backlash, and so on.

Invisible Children is actually a small organization, hardly a large corporation like Feed The Children (once named the "most outrageous charity in America"), with successful marketing, and perhaps others feel threatened.

Although this may be considered bias, considering the source, it addresses a number of thoughtful criticisms: InvisibleChildren

Let's not reduce Uganda to a meme, instead, let's talk about it.

And if nothing else comes of this than an in-depth discussion with a bunch of 18 year olds about slactivism and researching where ones money goes, I'm a happy teacher.

WSEIII 03-13-2012 11:05 PM

Two things:

1. Make sure that Koney is alive.
2. Let seal team six handle him.

I just saw "Exceeding Loud and Incredibly Close", and here's a quote from it. Boy and grandfather looking for lock. "I know you can't walk as fast as me and you have to go to the bathroom several times an hour, but could you eat faster!?"

dannyhatch 03-13-2012 11:08 PM

Is he going to the bathroom several times an hour on Joseph Kony? I don't get it.

denden 03-13-2012 11:19 PM

Yeah, I didn't particularly care for that video, I agree with Chemda, really sounded like she felt superior to the people she was talking to, and her parents don't seem to have an ounce of sympathy, either.

About Invisible Children, I don't think my feelings for them are because I'm hopping on some hate-train, it belittles the things I'm trying to get across, this is the opinion I have formed from the things I have researched on my own.

Invisible Children isn't going to stay small forever, from the stuff I've seen they are going to become much bigger, which saddens me cause there are many more legitimate groups that could use the support. Maybe I AM a fucking hippie -_- I just cant stand the use of violent methods in these types of situations.

Keith 03-13-2012 11:27 PM

I agree. Why the violence? Why are we stooping to Kony's level?

Let's sit him down and explain to him why what he's doing is wrong. I bet he himself was abused, and he simply knows no other way.

denden 03-13-2012 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith (Post 721507)
I agree. Why the violence? Why are we stooping to Kony's level?

Let's sit him down and explain to him why what he's doing is wrong. I bet he himself was abused, and he simply knows no other way.

Yeah, yeah, I get it. The guys a fucking psychopath. He will never listen to reason, I know that, I just feel... that its pointless. Killing him will only allow another to take his place, we can keep killing monsters like him forever and it will never stop, it only bloodies our own hands. How about instead of the head of the problem, we focus on the roots of it first, by taking away the source of these warlords power, the malleable uneducated, desperate children that they abduct and brainwash, and educate them to be able to take care of themselves. Yeesh, this stuff is making me fucking depressed. I need a drink.

Patrice 03-13-2012 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by skyelo (Post 721502)
This is the first time I've ever disagreed with Patrice (and I am not pleased about it)! I have done quite a bit of research on Invisible Children, hosted an educated debate involving my high school students (I teach 12th grade and the video was produced for their age group), and I saw Jason Russell speak at a TEDx Conference last fall. I understand that the message is simplistic but it is a starting point. Invis Children is not registered as an aid organization, their focus is awareness.

I think it's just hip to be part of the backlash, just as it was hip to repost the original video the night it came out. Soon it will be hip to backlash the backlash, and so on.

Invisible Children is actually a small organization, hardly a large corporation like Feed The Children (once named the "most outrageous charity in America"), with successful marketing, and perhaps others feel threatened.

Although this may be considered bias, considering the source, it addresses a number of thoughtful criticisms: InvisibleChildren

Let's not reduce Uganda to a meme, instead, let's talk about it.

And if nothing else comes of this than an in-depth discussion with a bunch of 18 year olds about slactivism and researching where ones money goes, I'm a happy teacher.

I honestly wouldn't have a problem if they just billed themselves as an awareness charity, but they don't

From the .org site:

"Our development professionals from Central Africa partner with local communities to implement and maintain education programs and economic initiatives in the war affected region. Recovering communities require stability when it comes to education and economic initiatives, but the ever-changing conflict demands innovative solutions and quick mobilization. Our initiatiatives attempt to meet the region's need for both stability and flexibility."

"We focus on long-term goals that enable children to take responsibility for their futures and the futures of their countries. Our programs are carefully developed initiatives that address the need for quality education, mentorships, the redevelopment of schools, and financial stability. In areas where the LRA is still active, we focus on civilian protection and rehabilitation."

That to me translates to "We help Africans". If they were just running around taking photos holding guns and making films that would a different story. Do I have an alternative charity that you should be dealing with to help? No. I just know that Invisible Children has given me a weird exploitation vibe since the first film they made a few years ago. I saw the stream of Jason Russell at Tedx San Diego and he's eloquent and passionate as a speaker I can give him that.

PsychoLoco 03-14-2012 01:32 AM

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Enunciated Piffle 03-14-2012 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 721507)
Let's sit him down and explain to him why what he's doing is wrong. I bet he himself was abused, and he simply knows no other way.

Totally. I mean, his group is called 'The Lord's Resistance Army.' Maybe he's just religious and it's part of his culture. Maybe God told him to rape and murder. Who are we to judge?

rodimusprime 03-14-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scruples (Post 721494)
Just curious, are the dolphins still gettin killed?

Yes but in all fairness the Dolphins didn't pick a day to have a poster hanging.


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