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View Poll Results: Do you believe in God?
I am a believer. 19 12.26%
I am an agnostic. 47 30.32%
I am an atheist. 89 57.42%
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:55 AM   #11 (permalink)
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^^ this could be one of favorite forum posts ever

i basically sat here and read it

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Old 03-21-2012, 09:10 AM   #12 (permalink)
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that movie looks corny as fuck, lol. I'll have to watch it.

It could actually be used as a good argument for atheism.
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it is that, featuring a young David Duchovny
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Can we please find Dimitri's OK Cupid profile?
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it is that, featuring a young David Duchovny
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David Duchovny *swoon*
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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From the imdb page: "Rapture (rap'chur) 2. a state of extreme sexual ecstasy."

Ok guys, where's the porn version of this movie? The one where Yahweh and Shiva get it on with Zeus?

Thor gets it on with Muhammed in the sequel. It's P.O.V with Muhammed filming in order to not be shown on screen.

I'm drunk
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Old 03-21-2012, 12:49 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I selected the Agnostic option, but I don't believe in any religion. I am inclined to the belief of a God, because I have trouble wrapping my head over the beginning of the universe...at least until science disproves God.
Here is a great video about the origin of the universe and how the universe can come from nothing:
'A Universe From Nothing' by Lawrence Krauss, AAI 2009 - YouTube

I really enjoyed hearing Keith talk about atheism. Although there should be a correction in the poll. The scale of belief of god is 2d and looks like this http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_QdYoufb0Us...t+v+Theist.png

Also, for his point on what percent of smart people are atheists, a poll in 1998 has put the percent of scientists who are disbelievers or doubters at 93% Leading Scientists Still Reject God
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I know a lot of people who are agnostic, and a lot of those agnostics claim that if there was evidence that the Christian god, for example, existed, they'd become a Christian and praise the lord, etc. But what about the Christian god is so good? The Old Testament shows the lord as a murderer and a whiner, he's horribly unpleasant and illogical.

Agnostics say this to you? To me, the issue is not evidence of divinity, it's the problem of human interpretation. Humans are incapable of removing their own desires and motivations from the mix. Even if divinity existed, we would view it through a self-serving lens that would distort it. So by that standpoint God literally is unknowable to us, which is the basic agnostic stance on the subject.
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:09 PM   #19 (permalink)
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This Agnostic goes to church

I’m agnostic but I have attended church regularly with my 10 year old son for the last 2 years so that he can experience a bit of religion. I think he needs to understand it a bit before he can accept or reject either belief. There are also tons of religious references used in daily life that he wouldn’t have been able to understand without some exposure to religion.

I’ve been able to find a happy medium in a United Church that is affirming of all sexual orientations, and doesn’t beat you over the head with going to hell if you step out of line. I feel like a hypocrite every Sunday, but I’m ok with it because I know that I’m a good person, and isn’t that the point of religion?
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:25 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Yeah, I've mostly heard about agnosticism from a "if it exists, I'll worship it" standpoint. Then again, I've heard that from mostly asians, and we all know they have no souls

I don't know wether to be agnostic or atheist, because while I do believe in pretty much all atheist beliefs (or facts, as we've come to know them), though there is not substantial evidence to deny the existence of god. I don't worship any of these gods however, because who's to say any of the observed gods are actually really gods? What if god is a 3 toed sloth or a turtle? no religion seems to be more probable to me than another. Who's to say Scientology is any less credible than Christianity? I guess I'm just non-religious, and I don't believe in any of the observed gods. The thing that created the universe certainly must be more complex than a big guy with a white beard, right? He must be more complex than to give us his teachings on a, frankly, archaic medium as the printed word. Why didn't he know about the invention of the Internet? The Bible should've been a blog at this point. Let's face it- the more advanced our society becomes in technology and science, the less reliable religion becomes. Take, for example, in Greek ages when the sun's movement from the east to the west was explained by saying a god on a flying chariot pulled the sun from one side of the sky to the other. Religion is a bunch of ancient hypothesi used to explain the once unexplainable. Religion was a very early scientific hypothesis to explain how our world worked- it's outdated by this point however. To roughly guess-quote Neil de-grasse Tyson: "the best thing about science is that exists whether of not you believe in it."

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