1597: I Need a Drink

[Keith]

"I like chasing women and doing coke, but anyways..."


Dan St. Germain

[WSEIII]

They have to keep selling doughnuts, what are the cops going to eat?

New Mascot - Pedio-priest

[Robotron]

I think it is rather silly to tell people what to eat or drink. Especially when these things don't impair you like drugs do. I think Chemda is right in saying that educating the masses is far more effective than seemingly arbitrary legislation (case in point is the guests reaction to Laurens story about the diet coke dispenser). Think about how much money it costs to pass and enforce these laws. Is this really the best way to allocate these tax dollars? Keith has a point that fat fucks shouldn't be encouraged but is it really job of the government to tell what beverages restaurants want to sell? Especially when most are selling alcohol which is highly addictive and medically proven to effect more organs than just about every other drug on the planet. The smoking ban at least makes sense because other people are at risk from second hand smoke. This is just a waste of time and resources.

[Keith]

How much money does passing this law cost us?

[Astigos]

It's a disgusting reality that the government has any sway in what its citizens can eat. Legislation to reduce sodium in food isn't going to help someone who doesn't understand nutrition. Eliminating trans fat isn't going to suddenly cure heart disease. Banning "super size" drinks isn't going to stop anyone from over-consuming.

Having spent the better of 4 months studying nutrition and losing a considerable amount of weight successfully and comfortably, the curtain has really been pulled about the horrid misinformation about nutrition. "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink" is pretty appropriate here. You can't force healthy living on anyone who doesn't want it.

[daemon]

Dan reminded me of Tom Arnold on love line when he was talking about his drinking. Crazy!

[WittyReference]

Originally Posted by Astigos

It's a disgusting reality that the government has any sway in what its citizens can eat. Legislation to reduce sodium in food isn't going to help someone who doesn't understand nutrition. Eliminating trans fat isn't going to suddenly cure heart disease. Banning "super size" drinks isn't going to stop anyone from over-consuming.

In a perfect world the govt shouldn't have to legislate about it, but when you have companies actively encouraging an uninformed/ stupid public to be unhealthy in the name of profits, then it kind of forces their hand. In the long run the obese cause a big financial strain on medical systems with their health issues which does end up costing governments a lot of money.

[Blitzgal]

If they don't also ban the "free refill" that's available at many restaurants, the 16 ounce limit won't do jack shit.

[invader]

$200 fine for selling something that anyone can by anywhere in the city, just in a larger quantity? So since 64 fl oz is less than two liters shouldn’t they make two liter bottles illegal also? This is just an obvious attempt by the city to make some quick cash off of fines against business owners. To top it off they try to disguise it as them caring about the health of their citizens. Two years from now New Yorkers are going to be just as fat, and the city is going to be just as broke.

As for Keith’s argument “…so we should just do nothing then?” In response to Chemda’s comments about why is selling diet coke and non carbonated or unsweetened drinks in such large quantities okay. Its more about the half assed nature of the attempt that’s pretty ridiculous. Most beverages are just as bad for you as coke, or only very slightly less bad for you.

[BrianAlt]

I think Dan's real problem with alcohol is that he was named after a liquor. It was destined.