1881: The New American Dream

VividRave · 11-22-2013, 08:01 PM

Chemda isn't a bitch, I think Keith was just doing the regular yelling that he does. If I ever went on KATG, I would kinda expect to be called a bitch eventually. No need to take all these things so personally, it's a shittalking show. We love you Chemda, it's ok!

WittyReference · 11-22-2013, 08:02 PM

I'm on level 245 and have spent $4 to unlock levels because I was impatient. I've never bought power ups but the level I'm on now is obviously one of the ones designed to encourage me to buy them.

My sister is on 265 and has spent $50. She has just had a baby and plays it while nursing etc so I think she was more vulnerable. After her husband discovered the $50 she set up another account using her 2 year olds Facebook so she could keep playing when she ran out of lives.

How have people not paid anything? I got to one checkpoint in the 50-70 range where the only option was to pay. The option to play challenges once a day to unlock levels had gone away and we just realised it doesn't give you that option when you are signed into Facebook, which is douchey.

I noticed the last IOS update made it easier to block all in game purchases because of freemiums. The Simpsons Tapped Out was renowned for this:

"Theo Rowland-Fry incurred the bill by purchasing large quantities of the game's donut currency, used to enhance gameplay. Apple has since refunded the money, and his father Nick had this to say:

"Theo is only just eight and has no real concept of the monetary value," he said in a statement to the Belfast Telegraph.

"As far as he was concerned he was just buying donuts. We know others caught out by the same thing. I appreciate children are their target audience but it is not right and there needs to be specific controls in place to stop this from happening."

DJQuad · 11-22-2013, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BadDecisionDino

YES! They absolutely are trying to trick children into spending their parents money!

OMG THEY ARE. I'm gonna go sue McDonalds for Happy Meals, sue Kellogg for marketing cereal, and sue Disney for making movies.

DJQuad · 11-22-2013, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by WittyReference

My sister is on 265 and has spent $50. She has just had a baby and plays it while nursing etc so I think she was more vulnerable.

She was more vulnerable to a game because she just had a baby?

lalalemon · 11-22-2013, 08:57 PM

Keith, it's not that you called Chemda a bitch, it's the tone and force with which you yelled it.

chickensandwich · 11-22-2013, 10:19 PM

They were both pushing it this time. Keith had a facts about the stupid game wrong but when he went into ape-shit mode Chemda was having too much fun poking the bear with Ophira to give him anything back. Of course the game is set up to get money out of you but its not a requirement. Whats the point in developing it otherwise? It seems to be just like crack. The first taste is free then you'll have to pay if you really want it. The game can be free but it pushes those buttons you have to want to play it and finish it. It may fall into the shady area of apps but you should expect these things. You still have to put your iTunes password in to pay money so in the end it's personal responsibility to be an adult.

Larion · 11-23-2013, 10:56 AM

Point Chemda. I think it was MJG who made the point of saying this show does the same thing. For free you get the last 10 shows, very reasonable. For an additional fee you get every single episode ever made and spin off shows, very reasonable. It is the EXACT same principle. Give em a little for free and if that's good enough for you fine, we still make some scratch from advertisers based on popularity OR we can get a lot more if you come directly to us for the premium stuff and you get a lot more as well, win-win.

Sashi · 11-23-2013, 11:00 AM

It's not at all the same unless Keith and Chemda provide heroin to first time listeners.

EDIT: Do you guys think it's ethical to try to get someone really drunk at a bar? They can just leave if they don't like it, right? If they stay and sleep with someone they wouldn't have normally slept with, that's their own fault 'cause they fell for it.

Sakugenken · 11-23-2013, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Keith

Neither here nor there, I don't trust ANY game that has 425 levels.

I thought this game was pretty harmless until I read that. Addict trolling for sure!

BrianAlt · 11-23-2013, 11:18 AM

It has 500 levels. I'm sure they'll add more soon.

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11-22-2013, 08:01 PM	#41 (permalink)
VividRave Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 65	Chemda isn't a bitch, I think Keith was just doing the regular yelling that he does. If I ever went on KATG, I would kinda expect to be called a bitch eventually. No need to take all these things so personally, it's a shittalking show. We love you Chemda, it's ok! JSZilla likes this.
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11-22-2013, 08:02 PM	#42 (permalink)
WittyReference Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 561	I'm on level 245 and have spent $4 to unlock levels because I was impatient. I've never bought power ups but the level I'm on now is obviously one of the ones designed to encourage me to buy them. My sister is on 265 and has spent $50. She has just had a baby and plays it while nursing etc so I think she was more vulnerable. After her husband discovered the $50 she set up another account using her 2 year olds Facebook so she could keep playing when she ran out of lives. How have people not paid anything? I got to one checkpoint in the 50-70 range where the only option was to pay. The option to play challenges once a day to unlock levels had gone away and we just realised it doesn't give you that option when you are signed into Facebook, which is douchey. I noticed the last IOS update made it easier to block all in game purchases because of freemiums. The Simpsons Tapped Out was renowned for this: "Theo Rowland-Fry incurred the bill by purchasing large quantities of the game's donut currency, used to enhance gameplay. Apple has since refunded the money, and his father Nick had this to say: "Theo is only just eight and has no real concept of the monetary value," he said in a statement to the Belfast Telegraph. "As far as he was concerned he was just buying donuts. We know others caught out by the same thing. I appreciate children are their target audience but it is not right and there needs to be specific controls in place to stop this from happening."
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11-22-2013, 08:57 PM	#45 (permalink)
lalalemon Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: New Haven Posts: 541	Keith, it's not that you called Chemda a bitch, it's the tone and force with which you yelled it.
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11-22-2013, 10:19 PM	#46 (permalink)
chickensandwich Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AR Posts: 82	They were both pushing it this time. Keith had a facts about the stupid game wrong but when he went into ape-shit mode Chemda was having too much fun poking the bear with Ophira to give him anything back. Of course the game is set up to get money out of you but its not a requirement. Whats the point in developing it otherwise? It seems to be just like crack. The first taste is free then you'll have to pay if you really want it. The game can be free but it pushes those buttons you have to want to play it and finish it. It may fall into the shady area of apps but you should expect these things. You still have to put your iTunes password in to pay money so in the end it's personal responsibility to be an adult.
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11-23-2013, 10:56 AM	#47 (permalink)
Larion Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Savannah GA Posts: 115	Point Chemda. I think it was MJG who made the point of saying this show does the same thing. For free you get the last 10 shows, very reasonable. For an additional fee you get every single episode ever made and spin off shows, very reasonable. It is the EXACT same principle. Give em a little for free and if that's good enough for you fine, we still make some scratch from advertisers based on popularity OR we can get a lot more if you come directly to us for the premium stuff and you get a lot more as well, win-win. Enunciated Piffle likes this.
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11-23-2013, 11:00 AM	#48 (permalink)
Sashi Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Toronto, Canadia Posts: 200	It's not at all the same unless Keith and Chemda provide heroin to first time listeners. EDIT: Do you guys think it's ethical to try to get someone really drunk at a bar? They can just leave if they don't like it, right? If they stay and sleep with someone they wouldn't have normally slept with, that's their own fault 'cause they fell for it. Keith likes this. Last edited by Sashi; 11-23-2013 at 11:06 AM.
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11-23-2013, 11:18 AM	#50 (permalink)
BrianAlt Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 4,690	It has 500 levels. I'm sure they'll add more soon.
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