2028: Ostensibly Yours

[Dean from Australia]

This is less about Palestine versus Israel as it is about Hamas versus Likud.

Hamas = extremist terror group.

Likud = extremist terror group.

That is the thing people should focus on.

For my money, I'm gonna go with Palestine and Israel without these two poisons.

[Scumhook]

Now for our "Glass half full" segment - Keith now knows what "ostensibly" means.

[Keith]

Ostensibly.

[Scumhook]

Originally Posted by Keith

Ostensibly.

You cunt. I had to look up what it meant to see if this was funny.

It is.

And now there are ostensibly two moar people who know what ostensibly means.

[DaveNJ]

Originally Posted by Dean from Australia

This is less about Palestine versus Israel as it is about Hamas versus Likud.

Hamas = extremist terror group.

Likud = extremist terror group.

That is the thing people should focus on.

For my money, I'm gonna go with Palestine and Israel without these two poisons.

Likud is a political party without full control of the Israeli government or the Israeli military.

Likud currently holds 20 seats in the Israeli Knesset. The Knesset has 120 seats, meaning Likud holds 1/6 of the seats of parliament. They govern by alliance with many parties, some more moderate and some even further to the right.

To equate it with Hamas is to make a claim that the two are alike, so where are the Likud suicide bombers? Frankly, you're just being flip because you want a nice narrative with two equally horrible sides, but where are the Likud terrorist training camps?

[Bucho]

Originally Posted by DaveNJ

To equate it with Hamas is to make a claim that the two are alike, so where are the Likud suicide bombers? Frankly, you're just being flip because you want a nice narrative with two equally horrible sides, but where are the Likud terrorist training camps?

Careful Dave. Almost sounds like you're saying suicide bombers who kill civilians are worse than governments who kill civilians.

[Dean from Australia]

Originally Posted by DaveNJ

Likud is a political party without full control of the Israeli government or the Israeli military.

Likud currently holds 20 seats in the Israeli Knesset. The Knesset has 120 seats, meaning Likud holds 1/6 of the seats of parliament. They govern by alliance with many parties, some more moderate and some even further to the right.

To equate it with Hamas is to make a claim that the two are alike, so where are the Likud suicide bombers? Frankly, you're just being flip because you want a nice narrative with two equally horrible sides, but where are the Likud terrorist training camps?

The IDF.

[DaveNJ]

Originally Posted by Dean from Australia

The IDF.

So the IDF behaves in a manner equivalent to Hamas? Where are the IDF suicide bombers? Given the many opportunities, why does the IDF take steps to avoid civilian casualties?

You're just being flip because it'd be nice to have two sides equivalent in bad behavior or malice, but the world isn't always balanced like that.

[Dean from Australia]

Originally Posted by DaveNJ

So the IDF behaves in a manner equivalent to Hamas? Where are the IDF suicide bombers? Given the many opportunities, why does the IDF take steps to avoid civilian casualties?

You're just being flip because it'd be nice to have two sides equivalent in bad behavior or malice, but the world isn't always balanced like that.

When have the IDF taken steps to avoid civilian casualties?

Are we even watching the same war?

[DaveNJ]

Originally Posted by Dean from Australia

When have the IDF taken steps to avoid civilian casualties?

Are we even watching the same war?

Given the weaponry of the IDF, do you doubt that Hama's could inflict more civilian casualties?

And let's be clear: the IDF routinely called residents prior to strikes to warn them that an attack was imminent, something no other country does to my knowledge.

We're not watching the same war because you're not even watching the war. Compared to other conflicts in the region, civilian casualties have been light. If the IDF wanted to inflict maximum civilian casualties (the goal of Hama's), the figures would be staggeringly higher.