2036: Losing My Religion

[Keith]

If a blind person can see, then you're right, they can drive a car.

[Zomniac]

You don't have to SEE to drive a car, Keith. You just have to be behind the wheel, with one foot to operate the pedals and at least one hand to steer.

[robotparker]

Originally Posted by Zomniac

You don't have to SEE to drive a car, Keith. You just have to be behind the wheel, with one foot to operate the pedals and at least one hand to steer.

[bithead]

Originally Posted by Zomniac

You don't have to SEE to drive a car, Keith. You just have to be behind the wheel, with one foot to operate the pedals and at least one hand to steer.

WTF are you talking about?

[Zomniac]

I submit this for your perusal.
Not only have blind people successfully driven cars, albeit with the assistance of a sighted person, but they have also done so without.

Blind Man Drives Car Independently

As I have said, over and over again, the blind can and DO own and drive vehicles. It is a non-argument.

The comparison of gun to vehicle is a dumb one and does not fit.

[Keith]

I really wish you guys who know a point you make is a "non-argument" or "not up for debate" could tell us right away. It'd save everyone a lot of time.

[Enunciated Piffle]

Originally Posted by Keith

I really wish you guys who know a point you make is a "non-argument" or "not up for debate" could tell us right away. It'd save everyone a lot of time.

So. Like for example:

Hello. My name is Piffle. I'm 34. Drunk and/ or on drugs. I give a constipated shit about the following post...?

[Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Zomniac

I submit this for your perusal.
Not only have blind people successfully driven cars, albeit with the assistance of a sighted person, but they have also done so without.

Blind Man Drives Car Independently

As I have said, over and over again, the blind can and DO own and drive vehicles. It is a non-argument.

The comparison of gun to vehicle is a dumb one and does not fit.

"successfully navigated 1.5 miles of the road course section of the famed track at the Daytona International Speedway."

driving independently on a closed track less than 2 miles with nobody else on the road with a technology that is not allowing blind folks to currently own and drive vehicles. the added seconds of reaction time for the technology to vibrate and the driver to respond in an emergency could be fucking critical. you're being goddamn goofy.

[Scumhook]

I swear that at least 50% of the cunts on the road these days are fucking blind, based on their driving.

[Zomniac]

All I tried to point out is that Blind people are not restricted from OWNING vehicles (an error made on the show), blind people do drive (an argument made, erroneously, in this forum), and further, that making the comparison of vehicle to gun is dumb.

Simply put, a vehicle is a necessary machine (not a tool) used daily by a lot of people for transportation. A gun is specifically designed as a weapon (not a tool) to maim and kill.

One could go around in circles making comparisons between machinery or other tools to guns, but the fact remains, firearms are specific to bodily injury and death, vehicles are not.

My opinion is that a blind person, given the exact right environment could use a vehicle (or other tool or machine, say, even a chainsaw) for it's manufactured purpose. I cannot imagine a blind person having the exact right environment to use a firearm of any kind for it's manufactured purpose.

For more on the original INTENDED purpose of firearms, I direct you to this citation: Historians typically recognize Chinese fire lances, which were invented in the 10th century, as the first guns. These bamboo or metal tubes projected flames and shrapnel at their targets.