2073: Reefer Madness

[LostAgain]

Keith you say
"Also, as I've said on the show, the reason I don't listen to comparisons of the two (weed and alcohol) is because I'm not advocating alcohol."

Have you noticed your picture on all your posts and the logo for the show?

Sure looks like a beer in your hand to me

[Keith]

Well you should try drinking again, because it's great for colds and headaches and shyness and boredom and...

[Shanateemanatee]

When Gilmore Girls came out on Netflix a LOT of my friends were really excited. I never watched GG when it was airing on TV, so I decided to watch it on Netflix. I watched part of the first episode and was so turned off by the micro aggressions and such so I stopped watching. Then I heard Chemda talk about GG and felt I understood where she was coming from completely, so I started watching again. I was a little more than halfway through the first season and enjoying it. I know I am watching this show years late and can't expect no spoilers ever, but this spoiler caught me off guard and has made part of the show less enjoyable. I was disappointed and upset.

But just so Keith doesn't feel ganged up on I think you should all know I smoked that night, and it didn't help my feeling of disappointment over the spoilers at all. So I guess marijuana isn't actually a miracle cure all.

[Tulipaloozi]

While my opinion does not change on the subject, my "cure all" comment was in reference to Rick Simpson and his tincture. His product has been shown to "cure" his patient's cancer, hence the reason I brought it up. Their doctors confirmed the cancer was almost if not completely gone after using Phoenix Tears. I'm not a doctor, so I trust their findings.

Here's a link to his documentary if anyone is interested.
http://youtu.be/YuQVeeZki_E

Whether you smoke it, eat it, or use it as a tincture, the cannabinoids in the pot is the "healing" portion which is absorbed with the cannibinoid receptors in our brains. Although it has been shown to be most therapeutically effective by eating or administering it in tincture form, you are still getting a small dosage of cannibinoids from smoking pot. But smoking anything, including pot, is not healthy in the long run. Yes, I am also aware of the cons weed has on a person's body.


While chemotherapy obviously has been proven to kill cancer many times over, it does not have the ability to differentiate between the good and bad cells in our bodies. It kills absolutely everything in the hopes of killing the cancer in the process. Once it kills everything, your body is working double time just to rebuild the good cells lost in the wipeout. With products such as the Phoenix Tears tincture, it's reported that the cannibinoids only attack the cancer or other bacteria/virus infections while also rebuilding the good cells at the same time, resulting in a much safer and (in my opinion!) effective treatment.

Here's just one article I found on the statistics of patients dying from their cancer vs. chemotherapy killing them first.
http://healthwars.co/286/cancer/chem...than-it-cures/

A chemo burn.
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Just like it was said that pot isn't for everyone, chemotherapy or other society approved medicines aren't either. Anyone comparing the side effects of pot to a legal prescription drug can see why some people prefer this alternative treatment.

While there are probably those who will still call me a stoner, druggie, or crazy after this, that's okay. You just may be right. But until the research is proven false and we're all thrown into the nut house, I'm gonna respectfully stick with my opinion.

I'm beyond excited to hear the Buress/Cosby discussion on the next episode. It's long overdue.

[jaredv1214]

Originally Posted by Tulipaloozi

While my opinion does not change on the subject, my "cure all" comment was in reference to Rick Simpson and his tincture. His product has been shown to "cure" his patient's cancer, hence the reason I brought it up. Their doctors confirmed the cancer was almost if not completely gone after using Phoenix Tears. I'm not a doctor, so I trust their findings.

Yea I'm sure a the results proving that weed is a cure for cancer from a study conducted by the organization that stands to profit of such findings are beyond reproach. You don't have to be a doctor to use common sense. Studies conducted by parties who stand to make money off results that prove their stance are almost never taken seriously and must always be taken with a few thousand grains of salt. If you can find an independent, third party study that produces the same exact results than you can make your argument without looking like a fool. Try using some rational thinking before bringing anything up because, as of right now, you are only hurting your side of the argument.

[thirteen]

I use 1Password to store passwords.

It's the best app I have ever used out of any apps for anything, and I'm not going back.

[Dean from Australia]

Monica Lewinsky is in the same category of human being as Snooki.

[baronduke]

I still can't believe anybody would think Lewinsky had a "career" derailed because of the scandal. It's probably the only reason she's had any amount of success at all. People who can only make it into community college out of high school, sleep with their married professor, and literally had mommy and daddy call in favors to get an unpaid internship most likely are not on the fast track to a super political career. She was/is as likely to cure cancer as become a successful politician.

[Scorpion]

Originally Posted by Keith

I never once said Chemda was an addict. Ever. If that's what you and her hear, then what can I tell ya.

True, I hear druggy and I hear addict. I not hearing on the show a tone of accusation in Keith's voice when he says "druggy." Just to be clear I'm not trying to make you, Keith, a bad guy in this. Even if Keith is an alcoholic and in denial (IF) that doesn't mean he can't bring up his concern for a friends (Chemda or anyone else's) possible addiction. That would not my hypocrisy but concern. If it counted as hypocrisy then every member of AA is a hypocrite whether they feed the addiction or not. Remember I said "if".

Originally Posted by Keith

But if you're bringing it up, what if Chemda has said on the show that she wondered more than once if she was an addict? Is there anyway she can possibly be an addict? Or are you dismissing how she told you she felt?

It is possible she has had a moment of clarity and has since dismissed it. Now that you bring it up I remember multiple episodes where she did express this very concern. Many addicts fool themselves into thinking they don't have a problem by "proving" they are not an addict simply by quitting for some set time period. The promise of a new start date is enough to quell the need. Most addicts can quite if there is a set end date. Most addicts aren't so far as to suffer withdrawals that might give away their addiction. Although, some addicts can still convince themselves that the withdrawal wasn't due to the addiction or not a significant sign.
Of course withdrawals are due to a physical addiction to a drug, weed is not physically addicting.

Note that anything can be mentally addicting and the mental addiction is the hardest part to get over. Cigarettes for example has a physical addiction that last around 5 days, after that any need or desire to smoke is only metal. Yet most smokers can claim having quit for more than a week and yet still smoke. Because the mental addiction persisted.

Originally Posted by Keith

Also, as I've said on the show, the reason I don't listen to comparisons of the two (weed and alcohol) is because I'm not advocating alcohol.

This is a very good point. I didn't bring up the comparison either I'm just discussing it. Although, I think some people would say the "My name is Keith" show advocates excessive alcohol use. I'm not that extreme but I know some are so I'm bringing it up. But just because you don't advocate alcohol doesn't mean it's not fair discussion. However, if throwing someone else's addiction or possible addiction made them unable to voice concern over friends possible problem then AA would not exist.

IF Keith was an alcoholic admittedly or not this doesn't change the question or lessen the concern of whether Chmeda has some problem with weed. IF that is a question.

I want to say that I'm not trying to come down on Keith or give Chemda a clean bill. I'm not close enough to either to say and if I was I'm not sure it would be my business to get into it with them (you). I think Keith should stop using the word druggy because it clearly upsets Chemda and I think it's been proven here that it has the connotation of addict (even if it is not synonymous) BUT, that would be up to him not for me to demand. You might notice I'm not big on the forums even though I've listened to the show since like show 180. I thought this was an interesting topic to discuss, I'm not trying to throw out accusations.

[Scorpion]

I have never done an illegal drug, prescription or other.

I drink about 1 or 2 drinks a week. I do on occasion drink more and reach intoxication (I don't want to start a discussion of what is tipsy or drunk). I've only drank to self medicate once or twice and found it ineffective and now only drink socially. I have been stupid drunk but if I'm going to get drunk I prefer a light tipsy feeling that can pass within about an hour if not maintained.

I'm not an addiction specialist, doctor or psychologist. Although many of my siblings are addicts and I've done research including a semester long course on drugs and addiction.

I simply find the discussion of drugs and addiction intriguing.