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Old 01-12-2015, 04:26 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm all in favor of a world with no religion but that won't be a utopian world with no senseless killing. Communist countries ban religion and still manage to wage wars in horrific ways. The underlying issue is power and control.



"A reporter for Britain's Telegraph newspaper in Paris told Sky News that the first two officers to arrive, who were apparently unarmed, fled after seeing gunmen armed with automatic weapons and possibly a grenade launcher."

Paris shooting: Manhunt after gunmen attack office of Charlie Hebdo, French satirical magazine - CBS News

"A shooting today in a suburb south of Paris killed an unarmed policewoman and injured a traffic agent, the day after an attack at Charlie Hebdo magazine left 12 dead and prompted France to put its capital on highest terrorist alert."
I believe that reporter was mistaken

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Police_(France)
In the 2000s, the police started switching to semi-automatic pistols and to the 9mm parabellum cartridge. For some years, the standard sidearm in the National Police and the Gendarmerie Nationale was the PAMAS G1, which was French licensed and made. In 2003 both agencies made the biggest small arms contract since the Second World War[6] for about 250,000 SIG SIG Sauer Pro SP 2022s, a custom-tailored variant of the SIG Pro, replacing the PAMAS-G1 and several other pistols in service. The weapons are planned to stay in service until the year 2022, hence the weapon name.
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I believe that reporter was mistaken

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Police_(France)
In the 2000s, the police started switching to semi-automatic pistols and to the 9mm parabellum cartridge. For some years, the standard sidearm in the National Police and the Gendarmerie Nationale was the PAMAS G1, which was French licensed and made. In 2003 both agencies made the biggest small arms contract since the Second World War[6] for about 250,000 SIG SIG Sauer Pro SP 2022s, a custom-tailored variant of the SIG Pro, replacing the PAMAS-G1 and several other pistols in service. The weapons are planned to stay in service until the year 2022, hence the weapon name.
I sourced two different articles for two different instances claiming the officers were unarmed. It's unlikely that they were both mistaken without being corrected already. It's safe to say that those officers were unarmed.

I believe the confusion is between National Police and Municipal Police.

"The municipal police do not generally carry firearms. At the request of the mayor, the prefect of the department in which the commune or municipality is located may authorise municipal police officers to be armed in certain circumstances or for special night work. In some cities, all municipal police officers are permanently armed."

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Old 01-12-2015, 05:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I sourced two different articles for two different instances claiming the officers were unarmed. It's unlikely that they were both mistaken without being corrected already. It's safe to say that those officers were unarmed.

I believe the confusion is between National Police and Municipal Police.

"The municipal police do not generally carry firearms. At the request of the mayor, the prefect of the department in which the commune or municipality is located may authorise municipal police officers to be armed in certain circumstances or for special night work. In some cities, all municipal police officers are permanently armed."

Municipal Police (France) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You are correct, I thought the police stationed at Charlie Hebdo's were national police - seems rather silly, given the circumstances, that they weren't armed.
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A bunch of rag heads shoot a bunch of frogs who may or may not have been armed.
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French police units should consist of three terminators and twelve ninjas right Chemda?

We Christians have the commandment "Thou shall not kill". But with Muslims the rule is join us or die.

Would you do the hide the coin trick around Jewish kids?
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We Christians have the commandment "Thou shall not kill".
* unless it's an abortion doctor
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It could also go to Michael Keaton but your logic there would only work if you think the voters could really believe Michael Keaton is a Birdman.
I grew up on Michael Keaton movies. I love Michael Keaton, (especially after the Maron interview) but clicking on the YouTube vid of him accepting the golden globes; I noticed he's wearing those goddamn hipster glasses.

When did Keaton ever wear glasses??? Why now??? Why must everyone be Woody Allen????

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We Christians have the commandment "Thou shall not kill". But with Muslims the rule is join us or die.
*cough* crusades, inquisition, witch trials, missionary work that wasn't always quite voluntary conversion, ... *cough*
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I'm all in favor of a world with no religion but that won't be a utopian world with no senseless killing.
Very good.

Any senseless murder being done in the name of atheism? Anyone losing family members to atheists screaming "All Praise to Christopher Hitchens" as they murder artists, writers, and political figures?
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My daughter is 12.

Because my adopted mom is a devout Baptist; she can't accept that my daughter is an atheist. It's absolutely killing me. And her.

My 12 year old doesn't understand. Nor should she. She's 12.

Fuck religion. It's nothing but outdated superstition. And as a great man once said, "It's Bad Fer Ya."
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