2119: Grumpy Old Men

[JJMArtwork]

I see no problem with the pictures at all, but I do find it weird that those pics were the ones the mother wanted to post.

[killallhumans]

My knee-jerk feeling was that Chemda was correct and Keith and Lenny sounded like weird old guys. But in cases like this, it's always instructive to ask yourself "would the situation still seem equally appropriate if the genders were switched?".

• Male parent / female child.
• Female parent / male child.
• Male parent / male child.

Does the situation feel equally appropriate in all of the alternate gender pairings given above? I'd have to say "no"--there is a slight degree of social weirdness going on in these parings.

Yes, I'm feeling this weirdness in my own head but it's also a reflection of social norms of the society I live in. I'd also like to make it clear that, despite being way older than her, I feel no guilt about finding the daughter attractive and sexy--she's a sexually mature, attractive, adult human female (of course I'm going to find her attractive!).

Some father posts on Facebook: "I'm so proud of my daughter! Here everyone, look at these photos she took to show how attractive and sexy she is."

I've gotta say, there is a twinge of social weirdness going on with that. Dude, your daughter very-probably took those photos to showcase her attractiveness (to friends but also potential sex partners). I'm not going to say the parent is a freak or call them out for this act alone. But it's just a bit weird--and that's Keith's position ... just that it's weird.

That said, as a father (which I'm not) I'd want my sexy daughter to have a normal fulfilled social life. You're only young once, enjoy yourself (with a partner that loves and respects you) and be safe.

I see that the poll is skewed strongly towards Chemda but I will be voting for Keith. And no matter what the poll says, I feel that it's inappropriate for Chemda to have laughed and jeered at Keith's suggestion that there's something weird about a parent doing this--laughing at Lenny was totally OK though.

P.S.: Lenny is totally wrong in saying "some of the photos are a little much"--Lenny is being an old fart by saying that.


Reference Material (Yeah, WTF, right?)

The dispute:

• Keith's position is that it's weird that a mother included certain pictures of her daughter on a social network post celebrating her daughter's accomplishments.
• Chemda feels that Keith's position is absurd and, further, that it stems from weird guilt about finding the young daughter sexually attractive.

I have looked at the pictures (link):

• They are selfies taken by the daughter.
• The daughter is a sexy and attractive young woman.
• The daughter took these photos with the intention of showcasing her own attractiveness. [This is an important assumption but a safe one, I feel.]
• There is nothing inappropriate about the content of these photos. Yes, they show-off that the daughter is bangable but there is nothing overtly provocative in these images.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by killallhumans

The dispute:

• Keith's position is that it's weird that a mother included certain pictures of her daughter on a social network post celebrating her daughter's accomplishments.
• Chemda feels that Keith's position is absurd and, further, that it stems from weird guilt about finding the young daughter sexually attractive.

I have looked at the pictures (link):

• The daughter took these photos with the intention of showcasing her own attractiveness.

My knee-jerk feeling was that Chemda was correct and Keith and Lenny sounded like weird old guys. But in cases like this, it's always instructive to ask yourself "would the situation still seem equally appropriate if the genders were switched?".

• Male parent / female child.
• Female parent / male child.
• Male parent / male child.

Does the situation feel equally appropriate in all of the alternate gender pairings given above? I'd have to say "no"--there is a slight degree of social weirdness going on in these parings.

This is a great way to look at it.

If the dad posted these pictures instead of the mom, would it be weird?

Boom! That's a great point! I'm rich!

[flerchin]

No, the dad posting those pics does not change the dynamic. These are normal pics of a high schooler. Old man.

[Keith]

Is it interesting that I guarantee you won't congratulate your daughter going to college by re-posting 7 selfies she took?

In fact, I think you'll remember this talk when the time comes and even though you'd like to re-post her selfies out of principle, you still won't.

But only time will tell.

[Sparrow]

have you guys never seen the back of a yearbook? the part where the parents write a little note to their graduating senior surrounding by pictures of said senior? it's the literal same thing. there is nothing weird about it.

[Keith]

No, I seriously haven't. Can you show me an example?

[Phaenix]

I was on hold with the healthcare timewasteplace for the third time today when I started listening to this episode.

Somehow, they managed to un-insure my four-year-old son this month! Thanks, Obamacare! And thanks, big insurance and big pharma (and their subsidiary politicians) for blocking a single-payer system.

[Sparrow]

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...pages+yearbook

[GreeningOA]

Man Keith and Lenny are getting killed in this poll. I will take the hit and jerk off to the pics the mom posted of her daughter if it helps prove the point how weird the post is.