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Old 02-03-2015, 03:11 PM   #21 (permalink)
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rape is already illegal. should be. we're discussing consenting adults for this particulars of this. where this gets sticky, for me, is defining this adult consensual act as rape if there isn't any exploitation or coercion happening, also already crimes.

we've already put struts in place to protect victims. who in this scenario gets to be the criminal? the older person? then why do we have ages of consent. the man? that's sexist as fuck and takes away a woman's own sexual agency.

i get there's authority issues, but for an adult, that is not crime. fucking your married boss isn't a crime also. fucking your best friend's 19 year old is not a crime. this isn't an advocation of their social OKness by any stretch, but we're talking about putting two people in jail. or we pick one to be the criminal and the other to be the victim. guess how that genders down?

two grown persons with all their faculties can consent to whatever sexually. even if it's socially or biologically inappropriate. doesn't make it right. doesn't make it moral. doesn't make it a crime.



nobody. the issue is if the state should meddle in the bedrooms of grown up people.
Although I still don't agree, I see your point. Portugal (even being the arsehole of Europe) still only meddles with adoption by gay couples and even that will be over soon. I'm speaking from a place of freedom when it comes to state interference so I see that one could feel opressed.

Still find incest icky. Surprisingly enough my husband just told me he gets your points. Go figure. *hides the child*
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I don't know what I'd do if I found out my wife was okay with adult incest. I guess I'd make myself believe she was just saying that to be liberal and didn't really mean it.

"If we broke up would you date our son?"

"Well maybe. I guess it'd depend."

Would that be the conversation? Jesus...
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I don't know what I'd do if I found out my wife was okay with adult incest. I guess I'd make myself believe she was just saying that to be liberal and didn't really mean it.

"If we broke up would you date our son?"

"Well maybe. I guess it'd depend."

Would that be the conversation? Jesus...
It was more like "well... if I never met my mom and she was hot..." and then I reminded him of what his mom actually looks like and he almost barfed. So yes, I'm sure he's trying to be more liberal than he is.
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Old 02-03-2015, 06:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
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... who in this scenario gets to be the criminal? ...
Both of them. Mutual restraining orders and counselling minimum.

The whole time Keith read the story I was waiting to hear that it was a prank. Why would the daughter reveal all that info? Didn't she say that they were going to try and have kids? BOTH OF THEM AND QUICKLY!

Does she look like her mother did 18 years ago so for the dad it's getting to be with the woman again that he found hot back in the day?
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Old 02-03-2015, 06:39 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Go figure. *hides the child*
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I don't know what I'd do if I found out my wife was okay with adult incest. I guess I'd make myself believe she was just saying that to be liberal and didn't really mean it.

"If we broke up would you date our son?"

"Well maybe. I guess it'd depend."

Would that be the conversation? Jesus...
hey, man, just 'cause i don't think it should be a crime doesn't mean i'm advocating the practice. i went to school with inbred kids; seen their squinty eyed mamas with their squinty eyed babies on their hips barefoot in the gas station, all of 'em. you didn't want to be related to a Howard, kwim?

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Both of them. Mutual restraining orders and counselling minimum.
i don't agree with punitive action, but if i did, that's a really lovely response. simple, addresses the issues, seeks help. very cools.
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:12 PM   #26 (permalink)
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you didn't want to be related to a Howard, kwim?
I love your fun use of words. It's like poetry. But what's kwim?

When you see these inbred fucked-up families, you never thought, "Wow. There outta be a law..."

Which again, to be clear, there is.
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kwim is 'know what i mean.'

not really. i often thought, though, it was weird when white people inbred they got almond shaped, hooded eyes.
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I voted to make it against the law, although I sympathize with the view to keep the law out of the consenting adult bedroom.

The reason I think it should be kept illegal is that some people have to be protected from themselves. Any toothless redneck who spits out the phrase "Tain't no law against furkin' ma daughter" is probably not going to appreciate the extreme possibility of fathering a genuine retard due to genetic complications.

If you want to break the law ... go ahead. People break the law every day. People speed in their cars, take illegal drugs, jay-walk, jump turn-styles etc. If there's no law, there's no way to protect a VICTIM. If there is no incest law, predatory sex within a family could not be punished if the predator claimed that his daughter or niece was a consenting adult.
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If there is no incest law, predatory sex within a family could not be punished if the predator claimed that his daughter or niece was a consenting adult.
i think the investigation process from a regular ole rape charge would substantiate both those things.
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i think the investigation process from a regular ole rape charge would substantiate both those things.
Yes, the rape charges thing always goes so well. #victimshaming
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