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FingerLakes 03-06-2015 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PsychoLoco (Post 840044)
  • Jewish = a practitioner of Judaism from any country or ethnicity
  • Hebrew = ethnic Jew that can practice any or no religion at all
  • Israeli = citizen/national of the state of Israel that can practice any or no religion at all


This is very useful, I've never seen it broken down like this before. The race/ethnicity thing has always been confusing. I have non-religious jew friends who consider [Ashkenazi] jews a seperate thing from just being white and the rabbi at the chabbad house in my school sure implied the same thing.

It's hard to get people to think technically instead of just going with what they see. People don't say Barak Obama is the first Half-black president, or president of mixed race, cuz he looks black and they want to keep categories simple.

But the main point is I didn't know that sucking blood off a dick was part of a bris. Fuck that and fuck all this red tape nonsense holding the gov't back from making this something regulated by an actual hospital or agency.
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also fuck that pizza place Keith. They did you wrong.

Eric M 03-06-2015 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FingerLakes (Post 840104)
I agree with you that the word is dumb but I do think ultimately there is a fear involved behind the hate. A fear of

1)The Unknown /The Other. People are afraid of things that are different and that they don't get. "Why would you want to suck a dick? that's weird. All I know tells me men don't do that

2) and in terms of male homophobes I sincerely think there is a underlying fear of being treated the way they think women should be treated. MEN do physical things, MEN are sexually agressive and don't take no for an answer, MEN do the penetrating, MEN have the power. Then the idea of a man who does these stereotypical feminine things comes around and suddenly its the end of the world.

The idea that, if they would possibly have a man be attracted to them, then fuck them, then treat them the way they treat women, is a fear these idiots have.

/tldr


I agree that there is a certain level of fear that leads to the hate. But calling it homophobia, to me, puts them on the defensive, when in fact they are the ones attacking the culture by oppressing their rights. It's been thousands of years that this is going on. It's time to get over illogical fears.

devohawk 03-08-2015 12:42 PM

Regarding whether you'd disown your killer 11 year old: we know by now that bullies come from being bullied- beaten by their parents, usually. The mother shouldn't even have the option to keep her kid, the child should be taken away and counseled for whatever they'd lived through to become so violent at such a young age.

Tulipaloozi 03-08-2015 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by devohawk (Post 840170)
Regarding whether you'd disown your killer 11 year old: we know by now that bullies come from being bullied- beaten by their parents, usually. The mother shouldn't even have the option to keep her kid, the child should be taken away and counseled for whatever they'd lived through to become so violent at such a young age.


There also are situations out there where the kid was from a great home with loving and non-violent parents, but they still turned out to be killers. I believe immensely that certain surroundings can shape a person's behavior, but when is it time to blame the person who actually committed the crime instead of their surroundings/parents/religion/favorite group? Everyone wants to be a part of a group, but that particular group's ideals doesn't give pass to any individual committing crimes against humanity as a whole. ( fuck, maybe I should have passed on that last bong toke.)

But I completely agree, a good majority of these types of cases are a result of abuse by those that are supposed to love and protect them. It's too bad that a simple mental health test before anyone has kids is looked at as infringing on a person's right to reproduce. If you're a shitty and mean person, there's a good chance that your children will be as well.

lizsquiz 03-08-2015 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by devohawk (Post 840170)
Regarding whether you'd disown your killer 11 year old: we know by now that bullies come from being bullied- beaten by their parents, usually. The mother shouldn't even have the option to keep her kid, the child should be taken away and counseled for whatever they'd lived through to become so violent at such a young age.


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