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Old 02-17-2006, 04:49 AM   #11 (permalink)
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A bit off topic perhaps but inspired by the last post from The Big Lebowski.

I kind of get the impression that everyone in the US are believing religious people. But I have to ask:

Do you actually BELIEVE in a god as a physical person or is it just a comforting metaphore.

As a true european atheist I'm just puzzled.

/ Andy


PS. And this was probably the last post I made here cause now I will be banned from the forums...DS
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Old 02-17-2006, 05:08 AM   #12 (permalink)
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so what is the statute of limitations on this guy that cheney shot dying and it being cheney's fault? he's fine now...still in the hospital, but he's 78. if, in a few weeks he's at home and has a heart attack, what then? will cheney be held responsible?

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Old 02-17-2006, 05:19 AM   #13 (permalink)
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A bit off topic
yes. yes it is. but i'll start a new thread in the off topic section of the forums.
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Old 02-17-2006, 05:30 AM   #14 (permalink)
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so what is the statute of limitations on this guy that cheney shot dying and it being cheney's fault?
Not a clue, but isn't the big question really if he will ever be prosecuted should the guy die?! How much immunity does he have? Can he escape a possible conviction based on his position in society? Does the law really apply to him as well?
I think he's gonna get off free, whatever happens. He's too important of a person.

And thanks for the pointer Mr. L...
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Old 02-17-2006, 07:21 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 02-17-2006, 08:34 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Sick showing up at a real guys funeral...

...and I just don't see what is so special with Kid Rock! He looks like a fucking teenage hillbilly! I almost feel sorry for those chicks!

Great show today!

/ Andy
What i'd heard on the news is that farrel and the crew showed up just to
get some research about how a big copfuneral is so that they can re-create
it for their movie.

still a bunch of crap though. kinda rude.
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Old 02-17-2006, 08:35 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Not a clue, but isn't the big question really if he will ever be prosecuted should the guy die?! How much immunity does he have? Can he escape a possible conviction based on his position in society? Does the law really apply to him as well?
I think he's gonna get off free, whatever happens. He's too important of a person.

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I hope he'd get prosecuted if the guy dies.
yes.
only when he wants it to.
i would describe him in terms of power rather than importance.
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Old 02-17-2006, 08:41 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Chris Walken dancing

The video was for Weapon of Choice.

Messed up thing: somebody did a shot-for-shot of the video with a stick figure guy.

http://www.stickfigureninja.com/disp...page=1&picID=1
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Old 02-17-2006, 08:51 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Links....

Kid Rock Scott Stapp Sex Tape

http://www.creedsextape.com/content/front/?f=700#

Or if you just want download it...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VM8D3TPK

And for Basic Instinct 2... release date March 31st

Theatrical Trailer

http://sonypictures.com/movies/basicinstinct2/

And a copy of the R-Rated footage reel they are giving to theatre owners to try and convince them to carry the movie. Lots of humping and Sharon Stone's titties and whatnot. NSFW or your babies

http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/m.m...cinstinct2.mov

This movie is Sharon's for real attempt to be a major player again.
Should these be posted on the "Porn THread"
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Old 02-17-2006, 09:10 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Good show

Val Kilmer is fantastic but he is an odd fellow. I first took note of him in Real Genious - which leads me to mention this odd website http://www.lost1.net/meyrink/faq.html where the author has fallen in love with the character "Jordon" in the movie.

As for Kilmmer I read a piece on him in the July 2005 issue of Esquire. In the article he goes on to state that once he is in the mindset of the character, he knows exactly what its like to have been the character in a given situation:
I ask him about the "toll that he felt while making the 1993 western Tombstone. He starts talking about things that happened to Doc Holliday. I say, "No, no, you must have misunderstood me. I want to know about the toll it took on you. He says, "I know, I'm talking about those feelings. And this is the conversation that follows:

Me: You mean you think you literally had the same experience as Doc Holliday?

Kilmer: Oh, sure. It's not like I believed that I shot somebody, but I absolutely know what it feels like to pull the trigger and take someone's life.

You understand how it feels to shoot someone as much as a person who has actually committed a murder?

I understand it more. It's an actor's job. A guy who's lived through the horror of Vietnam has not spent his life preparing his mind for it. He's some punk. Most guys were borderline criminal or poor, and that's why they got sent to Vietnam. It was all the poor, wretched kids who got beat up by their dads, guys who didn't get on the football team, couldn't finagle a scholarship. They didn't have the emotional equipment to handle that experience. But this is what an actor trains to do. I can more effectively represent that kid in Vietnam than a guy who was there.

I don't question that you can more effectively represent it, but that's not the same thing. If you were talking to someone who's in prison for murder and the guy said, "Man, it really fucks you up to kill another person, do you think you could reasonably say, "I completely know what you're talking about?

Oh yeah. I'd know what he's talking about.

Let's say someone made a movie about youVal Kilmerand they cast Jude Law in the lead role. By your logic, wouldn't this mean that Jude Lawif he succeeded in the rolewould therefore understand what it means to be Val Kilmer more than you do?

No, because I'm an actor. The people in those other circumstances don't have the self-knowledge.

Well, what if it were a movie about your young life, before you became an actor?

I guess I'd have to say yes.

Okay, so let's assume you had been given the lead role in The Passion of the Christ. Would you understand the feeling of being crucified as much as Jesus?

Well, I just played Moses [in a theatrical version of The Ten Commandments ]. Of course.

So you understand the experience of being Moses? Maybe I'm just taking your words too literally. No, I don't think so. That's what acting is.

I keep asking Kilmer if he is joking, and he swears he is not. However, claiming that he's not joking might be part of the joke. A few weeks later, I paraphrased the preceding conversation to Academy Awardwinning conspiracy theorist Oliver Stone, the man who directed Kilmer in 1991's The Doors and 2004's Alexander. He did not find our exchange surprising. "This has always been the issue with Val, Stone said via cell phone as his son drove him around Los Angeles. "He speaks in a way that is propelled from deep inside, and he doesn't always realize how the things he says will sound to other people. But there is a carryover effect from acting. You can never really separate yourself from what you do, and Val is ultrasensitive to that process.

As to the growth on his elbow, he may not have corrected it because of his religious beliefts:
Christian Scientists do not take medicine. They believe that healing does not come from internal processes or from the power of the human mind; they believe it comes from the Divine Mind His younger brother, Wesley, died as a teenager; Wesley had an epileptic seizure in a swimming pool. (Val was seventeen at the time, about to go to school at Juilliard.) I ask him if his brother's epilepsy was untreated at the time of his death.

"Well, this is a complicated answer, he says. "He was treated periodically. There is a big misnomer with Christian Science. People used to say, 'Christian Science. Oh, you're the ones that don't believe in doctors,' which is not a true thing. It's just a different way of treating a malady. It could be mental, social, or physical. When Wesley was diagnosed, he was given medical treatment. When he was in school, they would stop the treatment. Then periodically, he would go back and forth between Christian Science and the medical treatment.

I ask him what seems like an obvious question: Isn't it possible that his brother's death happened when he wasn't being treated, and that this incident could have been avoided?

"Christian Science isn't responsible for my little brother's death, he says, and I am in no position to disagree.

His daughter walks past us. I ask Val if he would not allow her to take amoxicillin if she had a sore throat; he tells me that because he's divorced, he doesn't have complete control over that type of decision. But he says his first move in such a scenario would be to pray, because most illness comes from fear.
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