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dannyhatch 03-31-2016 05:49 PM

2356: High Steaks
 
with Tim Dillon and Ralph Sutton – Tim’s grandma died; why music tastes change; the handicap of being tall; working as a strip club DJ; Ralph was a teenage hacker; your spring menu; the Jesus Shot; Tim’s political views; KATG poll results

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Tim Dillon
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FingerLakes 04-01-2016 02:27 AM

What Tim meant is the dudes on Grindr (especially in NYC) ignore you or attack you depending on how much of a cunt they are, if you're fat.

Tim has never sounded like more of an Italian Long Islander as when he started defending Trump

therewillbesnacks 04-01-2016 06:52 AM

On the defense contractor thing - the issue was only about where to situate the F-35 planes, whether in South Carolina, Florida or Vermont. The planes had already been built by that time, and that wasn't what Bernie was voting on. His vote was to bring in more jobs in Burlington by supporting the military industrial complex. Is it hypocritical when a huge point of his campaign is about railing against the defense industry? Yes, but I can understand where he's coming from with that decision. And that's one of the few blunders of his political career. Another one being his support of the 1994 crime bill that ended up incarcerating a disproportionate amount of minorities (which Hillary supported too, to be fair). Although he explains his decision in detail on his own website.
https://berniesanders.com/press-rele...en-provisions/

The reasons why I want him to be president far overpower any small amount of political blunders he's had over the course of 30+ years. It'll be a million years before we get a candidate who is 100% perfect and right on absolutely every issue. I think Elizabeth Warren is about as close as we can get, but she ain't running and I don't think she will (assuming a Rep. doesn't take office, which won't happen).

On his campaign, Chemda & Tim are both right. It's the media's fault for giving Bernie only a fraction of air-time and misleading viewers with inaccurate figures, and it's complete understandable considering their corporate interests. I guarantee you that if they gave him and the other main candidates all equal air-time with actual facts, he would be in the lead right now. In 2008, Obama had only been a first-term senator, and Clinton was the assumed frontrunner. But because he wasn't a threat to the establishment (in fact he took even more money from super PACs than Hillary), they gave him plenty of attention and he came out on top by the end of the primaries. He would have also been the first black president, which obviously helped a lot. That being said, Tim's right in that the Sanders campaign should have taken the media more into consideration. If he doesn't end up winning, both are at fault, sad as it may be. Although to Bernie's credit, he could have run as an Independent (which was his affiliation for decades), but he would have gotten 0 media attention, so he decided to run on the Democratic ticket. That, at least, was a smart decision.

Something to consider: latest NY poll has him 12 points behind (42-54). That's up 20-something from the last one, and it's a reliable poll. He doesn't need to blow out NY, he doesn't even need to win. If he's within 10 points, he's still be within reach of the nom. But just as a warning: Chemda, Keith & everyone else voting on April 19th; check your registration status. The Clinton camp & the NY Democratic Committee will pull anything to secure her the win, and I'm already seeing reports of people being de-registered from Democrat, the same exact thing that happened in Arizona. Check it out, yo:
https://voterlookup.elections.state.ny.us/

therewillbesnacks 04-01-2016 06:56 AM

But yeah, gay porn is just as weird as straight porn, only the acting is slightly better. My bed frame has more passion than some of those bimbos.

thirteen 04-01-2016 07:45 AM

Tim Dillon is one of my favourite KATG guests. Ridiculous, yet hilarious.

Dean from Australia 04-01-2016 08:45 AM

I watch a lot of lesbian porn. Is that weird? Because I think it's weird but I still get off on it more than straight porn.

Ralph Sutton sounds like a wanker...but what do I know.

LostAgain 04-01-2016 10:27 AM

2356: High Stakes
 
I do not understand why the picture of Mrs Trump with the caption "Do you want this as your first lady?" is supposed to make my want to support Cruz.
The first lady really only has the job of keeping the President happy behind the scenes (someone to talk to, bounce ideas off, etc).
If she is good looking, that is just a bonus when the First Family is preforming official duties with other world leaders.

If you are making your decision for president based on who they are married to, not married to, or they are dating. I would rather you just not vote.

I have never voted for a Democrat for President, but if this was 1960 (before I was born), and I was basing my decision on the wife, I would have voted for Kennedy.

The Girl 04-01-2016 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostAgain (Post 851870)
I do not understand why the picture of Mrs Trump with the caption "Do you want this as your first lady?" is supposed to make my want to support Cruz.


He was targeting Utah which is a very conservative state with lots of Mormons.
The picture was put out around the time they voted.

89vision 04-01-2016 10:53 AM

Tim Dillon is the greatest. Filet mignon is tasteless, I'll take a new york or ribeye any day of the week. I do like Ruth's Chris though, only because there is a shortage of high end steak houses in my area.

Eric M 04-01-2016 10:59 AM

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Love Tim but he's so silly calling the race far before its over. Bernie will probably win every single state thats left. Just like Obama did in 08. All thats left are Western and Northeastern progressive and delegate rich states like you guys that are going to vote for him.

Sparrow 04-01-2016 11:07 AM

the division of that moose is not in proportion to the the difference between the delegate counts. it looks as though Bernie has a /significant/ overage to Obama and that doesn't feel like the case here.

i'm saying this graph is bullshit.

Eric M 04-01-2016 11:20 AM

The division of the colors of the moose aren't to show percentage. That's just the democratic party symbol. The numbers are real. Go look them up. Were you paying attention in 2008? Because Obama was considered as unlikely as they are trying to paint Sanders now.

Sparrow 04-01-2016 11:27 AM

i didn't say the numbers weren't real, i'm saying they were shittily presented and DO make Bernie seem way more ahead than Obama was. the infographic was poorly designed.

Sparrow 04-01-2016 11:28 AM

Bernie's great, but let's not deify him or inflate him. it makes you all look like weirdo zealots.

Lanfear 04-01-2016 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric M (Post 851875)
The division of the colors of the moose aren't to show percentage. That's just the democratic party symbol. The numbers are real. Go look them up. Were you paying attention in 2008? Because Obama was considered as unlikely as they are trying to paint Sanders now.

Come on you know that the colour division is mean to imply % share

I work in market research, this is typical shady Fox News level misleading graphs 101

Eric M 04-01-2016 11:39 AM

yea im sure whoever created the image was totally banking on people not reading it at all and only looking at the allocation of color representation on the donkey. Give me a fuckin break weirdos.

Sparrow 04-01-2016 11:44 AM

you don't know how graphs work. ok. now i know from where we are starting with you.

LostAgain 04-01-2016 11:45 AM

Trump Hurmp
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Girl (Post 851871)
He was targeting Utah which is a very conservative state with lots of Mormons.
The picture was put out around the time they voted.

Well Trump should have just responded with one with Ivana, Marla, and Melania. It might have confused some FLDS into thinking he supported polygamy :)

Lanfear 04-01-2016 11:46 AM

They picked a visualization that makes their point look good and you picked this one vs a boring bar graph that would show a realistic difference.

Not that you can't make bar graphs fucked up
http://www.statisticshowto.com/wp-co...Bush_cuts2.png

Eric M 04-01-2016 11:46 AM

Its not a graph. It's an image. With numbers on it. So you can't read numbers. Now I know where I'm starting with you.

Sparrow 04-01-2016 11:48 AM

Misleading Graphs and Statistics

Eric M 04-01-2016 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanfear (Post 851882)
They picked a visualization that makes their point look good and you picked this one vs a boring bar graph that would show a realistic difference.

Not that you can't make bar graphs fucked up
http://www.statisticshowto.com/wp-co...Bush_cuts2.png

Apples and oranges. Not even fuckin oranges. You're comparing apples and Trump steaks for fucks sake.

Lanfear 04-01-2016 12:00 PM

Humans in general are soooooo fucking much better at recognizing shapes and size vs numbers.

Because math is a learned skill but you know instinctually if that cave lion is big enough to eat you.

Graphs are used to lie.
They colored that graph in two colors and with this division for a reason.
Because somebody could pretend to say 'oh this is clearly not meant to be a graph my bad' the exact same way that Fox says 'but look we labeled the axis - you just thought that the size of the bar has any impact - you are so dumb'

Lanfear 04-01-2016 12:03 PM

http://www.keithandthegirl.com/forum...26/#post833794

Quoting myself because fuck you

Eric M 04-01-2016 12:04 PM

Sorry for trying to give my fellow KATG listeners a little credit for knowing how to read. Next time I'll just type out the delegates and leave the graphic off. Wouldn't wanna confuse you too much.

Sparrow 04-01-2016 12:07 PM

also, they increased the font on Sanders name to imply that he's the winner. of what, i don't fucking know b/c he's not running against Obama and there's no need to compare him to Obama. why would it be important that he's bigger, faster, stronger than the guy leaving office? b/c he was Hillary's last opponent and now we get to measure their dicks and pee streams to see who wins that, too, because the media is making your campaign feel limp?

i'm less concerned with who wins what and why and how than with the thinking that a win is a panacea. we will celebrate all weekend and be disappointed ole Bernie couldn't give us a Utopia in a single presidency.

want a truth bomb? we aren't in a position to create or support Bernie's programs. i would LOVE my generation to gift the country universal healthcare and education, we aren't there yet. we will not be there in 4 years. the /best/ we can do is start the process of untangling the necklace around our economy before we can go waving the fruits of our labor around. those fruits have already been eaten, friendo.

Sparrow 04-01-2016 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric M (Post 851888)
Sorry for trying to give my fellow KATG listeners a little credit for knowing how to read. Next time I'll just type out the delegates and leave the graphic off. Wouldn't wanna confuse you too much.

your sour grapes make you sound stupid.

Sparrow 04-01-2016 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanfear (Post 851886)
the exact same way that Fox says 'but look we labeled the axis - you just thought that the size of the bar has any impact - you are so dumb'

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric M (Post 851888)
Sorry for trying to give my fellow KATG listeners a little credit for knowing how to read. Next time I'll just type out the delegates and leave the graphic off. Wouldn't wanna confuse you too much.

...

Eric M 04-01-2016 12:28 PM

It's a picture. Not a fucking graph. READ the fucking NUMBERS morons.

Sparrow 04-01-2016 12:36 PM

you've just convinced me to vote for Hillary. i wasn't going to vote, but now i'm going to not only vote, but i'm doing it to specifically cancel out YOUR vote.

let me write it out:

Bernie Sanders supporter: Eric M
Hillary supporters: Broad City

you can't see the difference because i've left off the graphic bits, but you were represented by a little pile of poop and Abbi and Ilana are squatting over you. the axis was Abbi's height in metric.

Lanfear 04-01-2016 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric M (Post 851893)
It's a picture. Not a fucking graph. READ the fucking NUMBERS morons.

I am so much more mad at you for not getting this point because based on what I read from you in the past I thought you were a clever dude.

People in general are dumb dumbs. Super sad I know but look at those Trump numbers.

I read the number, you did, Sparrow did we all got it but do you really feel comfortable to argue that this image is not meant to give a biased picture?

Lanfear 04-01-2016 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparrow (Post 851894)
you've just convinced me to vote for Hillary. i wasn't going to vote, but now i'm going to not only vote, but i'm doing it to specifically cancel out YOUR vote.

let me write it out:

Bernie Sanders supporter: Eric M
Hillary supporters: Broad City

you can't see the difference because i've left off the graphic bits, but you were represented by a little pile of poop and Abbi and Ilana are squatting over you. the axis was Abbi's height in metric.

I love you so much I could puke rainbows

Eric M 04-01-2016 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparrow (Post 851894)
you've just convinced me to vote for Hillary. i wasn't going to vote, but now i'm going to not only vote, but i'm doing it to specifically cancel out YOUR vote.

let me write it out:

Bernie Sanders supporter: Eric M
Hillary supporters: Broad City

you can't see the difference because i've left off the graphic bits, but you were represented by a little pile of poop and Abbi and Ilana are squatting over you. the axis was Abbi's height in metric.

Thats a hell of a threat considering she already won my state and yours.

therewillbesnacks 04-01-2016 12:47 PM

Obviously it's not as dramatic as the Fox News-style way of graphing, but I think it's pretty clear that a graphic like that is misleading. Sanders' name is bigger, the disproportionate colors, all the while the delegate advantage is relatively minuscule. You can say it's just a picture & the numbers are right there, but speaking purely psychology, it's meant to be slightly deceptive. A proper bar graph of those numbers vs. that picture would subconsciously give two different interpretations of the lead, plain & simple.

And unless Bernie squeaks out a win in NY, I doubt he's gonna win every state from here on out. Doesn't mean he can't still win, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparrow (Post 851894)
you've just convinced me to vote for Hillary.

pls no

Sparrow 04-01-2016 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric M (Post 851897)
Thats a hell of a threat considering she already won my state and yours.

game ain't over is it, buttfart; if you're representative of the voices pushing Bernie's agenda i imagine i'll get the opportunity again.

Eric M 04-01-2016 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanfear (Post 851895)
I am so much more mad at you for not getting this point because based on what I read from you in the past I thought you were a clever dude.

People in general are dumb dumbs. Super sad I know but look at those Trump numbers.

I read the number, you did, Sparrow did we all got it but do you really feel comfortable to argue that this image is not meant to give a biased picture?

I barely even paid attention to the picture because it isnt represented as a graph. I think you're way overstating the difference in color proportion anyway. Those legs are pretty scrawny. And those antlers are hardy and full of life. I appreciate you thinking I'm a clever dude. I was only trying to share the actual information presented on the graphic and that he still has a great chance as did Obama. I definitely wasnt trying to start an argument with a couple of chicks on a forum, especially when I think the core of all three of our beliefs are probably pretty similar.

Sparrow 04-01-2016 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric M (Post 851900)
I barely even paid attention to the picture because it isnt represented as a graph.

it /wishes/ it could be that clever.

Eric M 04-01-2016 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparrow (Post 851901)
it /wishes/ it could be that clever.

Who pissed in your cheerios? You think my intentions were as ill as eats paste? When did you get so ridiculous?

Sparrow 04-01-2016 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric M (Post 851902)
You think my intentions were as ill as eats paste?

no, i think you're incredibly dense for not getting that when graphics are being included with numbers they mean things even after being presented with university level written evidence AND someone in a statisitical marketing field. it's fun and i don't feel bad to abuse you a little because of it.

Sparrow 04-01-2016 01:06 PM

http://admin.americanthinker.com/ima.../196009_5_.jpg


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