2373: Politics as Usual

[Eric M]

By the way, its a weird point that people say Trump is just exposing the racists that already exist. He is doing that but there are also children growing up right now being influenced by this crap. Trump has dumbed down our "politics as usual" now and in the future. We've already had Kanye talking about running in 2020. I'm not saying Idiocracy is a real documentary from the future or anything but you can see why it really seems possible to move in that direction.

Originally Posted by seamus

This is the first poll you've been unable to truthfully answer? You live a charmed life then.

I'd like an example of a poll you're talking about please.

[memecherry]

I say we all write in votes for Bob the Drag Queen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2E4twywatA

BJ's for everyone & she doesn't eat babies...

#PurseFirst

[therewillbesnacks]

Originally Posted by Apia

I think Michael is completely right on this one. Hilary is not great but she is not racist or anti choice, anti gay, anti trans. She is opportunistic and was against gay marriages. But still she would nominate a liberal judge to the supreme court.

Knowing that Obama's probably more liberal than Hillary, and knowing that he nominated Merrick Garland, I highly doubt that.

[DaveNJ]

Originally Posted by therewillbesnacks

Knowing that Obama's probably more liberal than Hillary, and knowing that he nominated Merrick Garland, I highly doubt that.

Garland's a sacrificial lamb so that he doesn't have to waste Sri Srinavasan or Goodwin Liu at this juncture. Those are the two serious liberal options, but you don't burn a good candidate in a situation like this. That's like leaving your QB in the game to get beat up when you're down 40. Garland is a tactical move that preserves judicial bench depth while maintaining upside potential. Make no mistake, Garland would be a heck of a lot better for Democrats than Antonin Scalia ever was.

And Keith should have stuck with his Bernie bets. If nothing else, he'd be $100 richer right now. That's more than any of the candidates is offering him.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by DaveNJ

And Keith should have stuck with his Bernie bets.

I don't know if you know how bets work, but when you make a bet, you stick with it.

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[OnmyojiOmn]

I was done with Hillary when the email scandal was still going on. She got caught, denied it, got caught again, said she wouldn't do it any more, got caught again, and by then people were bored with it. She thinks every American is a fucking idiot. That's why she laughs - she's laughing at YOU.

[MichaelApproved]

Originally Posted by therewillbesnacks

Knowing that Obama's probably more liberal than Hillary, and knowing that he nominated Merrick Garland, I highly doubt that.

Hillary is the only moderate Republican running this election.

[Skyler]

Maybe President Trump wouldn't be able to enact some of his more extreme plans, but what do you think he will do when the conservative congress sends a deplorable bill to his office? Does he Veto them as Obama has been doing?

Even "goofy" Trump can set us backwards.

[MichaelApproved]

Originally Posted by Apia

And don't expect the system to go down in flames with a trump president. Remember. You had George w.as a president two times. The worst ever . And there was no revolution against him. He even got reelected.

Bush replaced conservatives on the Supreme Court with other conservatives. Over the next 8 years both conservative and liberal justices seats will be open. We can not allow the court to remain conservative for another 30 years. We must elect someone who will put liberals on the benches.

[DaveNJ]

Originally Posted by MichaelApproved

Hillary is the only moderate Republican running this election.

Wouldn't that make Barack Obama a moderate Republican president?

I don't get this angle. On a policy level, Hillary and Bernie are nearly indistinguishable. That's the reality of the current political landscape.

Dissatisfaction that there's no true left-wing option within a two-party system ignores the reality that there hasn't been a true left-wing candidate with a real shot at the presidency in our two-party system since 1944, and that was in a country with a much stronger labor movement. Wishing otherwise doesn't make it so, as we've seen over the past few months. That doesn't mean this won't change in the future, but it clearly hasn't happened yet.

I dunno. I think Hillary Clinton is positioned to face a Republican party that is fracturing in a once-in-a-generation fashion, which has significant down-ballot ramifications. Not sure why this isn't cause for celebration among people who voted for Barack Obama twice.