2421: Dressed to Kill

[Lanfear]

Originally Posted by My Sweaty Balls

Just about everyone I know is in a safe seat - their votes do not count. That includes me (in the lower house, in the senate we have proportional representation)

I have no clue what that means?
I thought the president is not voted on by either the house or the senate?

Originally Posted by My Sweaty Balls

Yeah but it wasn't accidental

Did I say anything about accidents anywhere?

[My Sweaty Balls]

Originally Posted by Lanfear

I have no clue what that means?
I thought the president is not voted on by either the house or the senate?

I am talking about throwing away my vote for wither house of reps or senate in Australia.

FYI for the election of the POTUS from Wikipedia

The election of President and Vice President of the United States is an indirect election in which citizens of the United States who are registered to vote in one of the fifty states or Washington, D.C. cast ballots for a set of members of the U.S. Electoral College, known as electors.

I believe New York awards its electoral votes to the candidate who wins the state's popular vote. (If I'm wrong on this I'm sure Micheal or someone will correct me)

Did I say anything about accidents anywhere?

Yes, basically you said if you throw your vote away then that would cause the candidate you do not want to be elected.

In the state of New York that could only happen there was a hell of an accident. New York is about 64% Dem and only 36% Rep.

In 2012 Obama got 4,485,877 votes and Mitt got 2,490,496. So if you throw away your vote AND 997,690 other people change from Dem to Rep, then your decision is stupid.

But that would be a hell of an accident.

[Lanfear]

sorry I didn't remember/know that you are in Australia aka "your chin"

[My Sweaty Balls]

Yeah I could have been clearer - I've changed my location back now

[Sparrow]

Originally Posted by My Sweaty Balls

No its not, it was simple majority of votes cast - the Brexit vote didn't win because people were protesting the voting system.

to be clear, i was drawing a parallel between Trump and Brexit in respect to riling up nationalism and xenophobia to pursue power instead of putting forward workable solutions to real problems.

[Lanfear]

https://medium.com/@theonlytoby/hist...714#.xll2j1kkj

Kinda depressing but very interesting reading

It seems we’re entering another of those stupid seasons humans impose on themselves at fairly regular intervals.
...
At a local level in time people think things are fine, then things rapidly spiral out of control until they become unstoppable, and we wreak massive destruction on ourselves. For the people living in the midst of this it is hard to see happening and hard to understand.

[My Sweaty Balls]

They didn't look back far enough - this is what usually happens
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gracchi

Spoiler* - they were both murdered by the etablishment

[Lanfear]

Kinda but the New York Times text he is linking to is all about Plato, so that is even older

But seriously good link, I like Roman history a lot. Give me Horses as senators and "Carthage must fall" references any day please