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02-04-2017, 12:09 PM | #11 (permalink) | |
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It specifies shady royal families, affiliations with shady foreign governments (like North Korea) and foreign diplomats who profit from impeding democracies. Thats typical border control/safety/diplomacy stuff, not a ban. |
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The suspension of entry into the US is a travel ban. Carter's ban of Iranian citizens after the hostage crisis isn't even on that list. Reagan's bans on the list targeted Cubans, and his "high seas" ban was supposed to target Haitians coming here by boat. I looked it up, and the Coast Guard had permission to fire on a vessel if they didn't stop and wait for inspection.
If you go through it again, you'll see that the orders have a wider range than what you're saying. It shows that presidents have broad authority when it comes to immigration. It looks like one of Obama's orders banned entry for anyone that was involved with (or maybe just suspected of) hacking. This isn't a defense of Trump's ban. |
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Reagan's "ban" on Cuban is targeted towards those in cahoots with the government. Cause cold war. Cubans notoriously are able to immigrate here easier than any other nationalities because of "wet food dry foot" which basically says if they can make it to Florida they can be a US citizen. Not allowing people to immigrate here through illegal means (by boat) is not a ban. How border control treats those they catch trying to enter illegally is a totally different and depressing topic. |
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I'm just saying that similar controversial orders have been done before, but were more specific like you mentioned. The president has the authority to ban any group of aliens that he believes are harmful to the country on his own (but it can be challenged).
Reagan's high seas order was targeted, so you could argue that it is a country specific ban. You can call these actions something else if the word ban is the issue. No reason to read all of this unless you really want to know. Article on Carter's Iran order: Carter Cuts Ties With Iran | News | The Harvard Crimson This talks about how complicated and disorganized Trump's order is: Trump’s Immigration Order Tests Limits of Law and Executive Power |
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