2593: Jailbird

[memecherry]

And because this young woman is amazingly articulate in regards to these discussions, take the time to check out her work:

Race Convos ? Intelexual Media

[KOUNTRY]

Slave patrol was what southern states did and started in early 1700 's but they where only for that they where not a organized police force. They where exactly that SLAVE PATROL. In the 1830's small towns where now big city's night watch or concibles where not enough and city's statrted making police forces based closely on England's police force Boston first then New York and so fourth

[memecherry]

I will be interviewing this talented young man in two weeks for my podcast:

https://twitter.com/anthoknees

https://extranewsfeed.com/lets-stop-...355#.1apqzwwg3

https://medium.com/@anthoknees/the-t...67f#.luace6bqu

If we want ANYTHING to change, we need to start paying attention to other people's experience in the systems we live in.

Like my statement regarding the rich (mostly white & mostly men) wallstreet folks that tanked our economy & faced no repercussion vs broken window policing that disproportionately affect brown & black folks.

The fact that black parents have to teach young kids to be basically scared of the cops so that they make it home safe at night...

If anyone wants anything to change in this world, they need to look outside themselves and accept that other people are experiencing other things in the same world just because of the color of their skin or the $ in their bank account...

I'm challenging myself to learn more, listen more, observe more.

Challenge passed on to the rest of you that care enough to take it on...

[KOUNTRY]

Originally Posted by memecherry

I meant the history of it in THIS country..... (OUR system)

I too am talking about this country only a little more accurately and not just trying to form others opinions. When I first read your comment of policing being started for slave owners I was pissed thinking those mother fuckers then I looked into it and you where not right.

[memecherry]

Originally Posted by KOUNTRY

I too am talking about this country only a little more accurately and not just trying form others opinions. When I first read your comment of policing being started for slave owners I was pissed thinking those mother fuckers then I looked into it and you where not right.

Dude the historical connection is there... Not here to argue with you.

[memecherry]

Anyone that doesn't understand the connections from slavery to modern day policing & the prison system, somebody made it very easy for you to educate yourself:

Netflix's 13th Explores Modern Slavery in Incendiary New Documentary | Fortune.com

[KOUNTRY]

Originally Posted by memecherry

Can we please have a guest on that can remind folks of the history behind our police system??! It was to keep slaves in line, to protect white land owners & their property!!!! The slave labor off cotton did not end with the cotton picking!!! It's still VERY alive in our prison system, and the racist GOP that profits off this shit is keeping the Orange puppet around.. liability and all.

Not trying to argue either just put out what is actual. You're suggesting our police force stems from slave patrols in the 1700's. Where in fact it stems from the first police force in the 1830's started in Boston. The two are not the same and I just putting that out there. If your over all argument is that there is racism in today's police force then you got me there. But it was not made from the slave patrols of the 1700's

[memecherry]

Originally Posted by KOUNTRY

Not trying to argue either just put out what is actual. You're suggesting our police force stems from slave patrols in the 1700's. Where in fact it stems from the first police force in the 1830's started in Boston. The two are not the same and I just putting that out there. If your over all argument is that there is racism in today's police force then you got me there. But it was not made from the slave patrols of the 1700's

A Brief History of Slavery and the Origins of American Policing | Police Studies Online

The birth and development of the American police can be traced to a multitude of historical, legal and political-economic conditions. The institution of slavery and the control of minorities, however, were two of the more formidable historic features of American society shaping early policing. Slave patrols and Night Watches, which later became modern police departments, were both designed to control the behaviors of minorities. For example, New England settlers appointed Indian Constables to police Native Americans (National Constable Association, 1995), the St. Louis police were founded to protect residents from Native Americans in that frontier city, and many southern police departments began as slave patrols. In 1704, the colony of Carolina developed the nation's first slave patrol. Slave patrols helped to maintain the economic order and to assist the wealthy landowners in recovering and punishing slaves who essentially were considered property.

Policing was not the only social institution enmeshed in slavery. Slavery was fully institutionalized in the American economic and legal order with laws being enacted at both the state and national divisions of government. Virginia, for example, enacted more than 130 slave statutes between 1689 and 1865. Slavery and the abuse of people of color, however, was not merely a southern affair as many have been taught to believe. Connecticut, New York and other colonies enacted laws to criminalize and control slaves. Congress also passed fugitive Slave Laws, laws allowing the detention and return of escaped slaves, in 1793 and 1850. As Turner, Giacopassi and Vandiver (2006:186) remark, “the literature clearly establishes that a legally sanctioned law enforcement system existed in America before the Civil War for the express purpose of controlling the slave population and protecting the interests of slave owners. The similarities between the slave patrols and modern American policing are too salient to dismiss or ignore. Hence, the slave patrol should be considered a forerunner of modern American law enforcement.”

[memecherry]

Originally Posted by memecherry

On a side note, I'm also very disturbed with the trend of black & brown girls missing in urban areas. Little girls... very little news coverage on it. It's very concerning all around how black & brown folks will survive the current administration's archaic policy approach.

KING: It's no accident we hear little about missing black girls - NY Daily News

[Pintman]

Originally Posted by amnesiac

. . . Keith no one credited you for recognizing that Chemda's civil rights were violated by those dick cops who lied and laughed at her. . . .

What right or rights were violated? Don't just huff and puff and rant and rave self righteously, be specific. Some right in the U.S. or New York Constitutions? Some right granted by a specific law? By a specific court decision?

THEY DON'T HAVE TO SAY "YOU ARE UNDER ARREST." THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE NICE. MAYBE THEY SHOULD, BUT THEY DON'T.

I can't see a violation of any of her rights.

And stop with "the system is corrupt and unjust." Of course it is, but that doesn't justify stealing rides from those of us who pay. How are you going to change things for the better by stealing rides?

How's about I put my VIP username and password on the web for anybody to use and download shows for free? I mean, the internet should be free. The system is corrupt.