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Old 03-20-2017, 10:46 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Chemda I think the right situation should have been a summons. They recite you at the time of the other ticket. You can pay it at your leisure online or at a specific place. If you fail to pay that second summons. A warrant for your arrest should be issued as well as the fine. I agree it's a bit heavy-handed to arrest you after 15 years with no action.
Here's the point: A court only has to mail notices to the last address the defendant has given. They don't have to (and can't) track her through the years. If the defendant moves, it is her duty to notify the court of the new address. If she doesn't, that becomes her problem.

Understand the process. There was a summons, 15 years ago. It would have been handed to Chemda or mailed to the address she gave at the time that she was caught. That summons was ignored.

There may have even been (probably was) a second notice issued at that point, again mailed to Chemda's last known address. Then at some point, having not heard from Chemda, the court finally issued an arrest warrant. Again it would have been mailed to the last address the Court had on its books for Chemda. Maybe (probably) Chemda had moved at least once in the meantime, but it was up to her to notify the court of the new address.

Yes, Chemda had multiple IDs or driver licenses issued in the meantime, and the old warrant never came up. But this isn't surprising because different government agencies don't work off a single, cross-referenced database. The DMV doesn't have the addresses that the court has, and vice versa. The DMV can't routinely check for warrants on every renewing driver. This is probably a good thing, because a single database accessible to every government agency would make it easier for the government to spy on people.

Not picking on Chemda, not trying to sound like a know-it-all, but people who blow off even little things like this are just asking for trouble.

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Old 03-20-2017, 10:57 AM   #22 (permalink)
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asking for trouble.
i knew this felt familiar. didn't we all just have a conversation about compassionate tact after someone experiences trauma?

Chemda deserved to be lied to, treated less than human, and stored in a garbage bin? for not updating her address? get out of here.

if this conversation is a big fucking shrug at how goddamn awful our prison system is, know you're a bad person.
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Regardless of whether Chemda was right or wrong, there is no excuse for the cops to lie to her and for all law enforcement involved to treat her and the other jailed women so poorly. Also, her brother was a jerk for not being supportive when Chemda was so obviously in need of emotional support.
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Pintman, why are you thinking we'll forget that the cops said she WASN'T under arrest by saying that a cop doesn't have to SAY when someone's under arrest?

You gettin' tricky?

Also, what do you mean the court wouldn't have a person's new address? Somehow they keep finding us for jury duty.

C'mon now...
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Would Keith's Justice© apply in this case?
No, you moron. When 2 people walk into a turnstile together, is that so cut and dry that they'd be killed? This is why my great idea will never work: Idiots.

Seriously though, yes it would apply here. The cops would be murdered for lying about someone being or not being under arrest.
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Lanfear, you are making up that I ignored letters. I never received letters. I specifically said that I've looked up my license. I also got a new ID at least twice since that ticket. No one said anything.
Lanfear: "Doubt it."
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I have to say, hearing Chemda tear into Michael like that kind of made my day. Also, you've now not only survived a tumor but jail too. Massive street cred.
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This episode is the closest to "triggered" I have ever felt in a long time.

I was about to type out my horrible experience with the police...

Ugh.. I just can't..

Chemda, I told you the story last year when I came to NYC.

I'm so sorry you went through this...

Is Chemda perfect? No... Are any of us on this forums? No...

Maybe take a sec to show compassion while trying to lecture somebody that was caught up in a fucked up system...?

Can we agree the system is fucked up? Can we agree it's built to make money off making people criminals for petty or sometimes no reason? Can we agree it is a system that relies on criminals staying criminals so they can keep money pumping through the prison system? YES!!

STOCKS IN PRIVATE PRISONS WENT UP THE DAY AFTER DT WAS ELECTED.

Broken window policing? Anyone heard of that??? Stop & frisk?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.e193f66184c0

Should Chemda stop her petty theft streak? Yes.

Should she have paid the fare? Yes.

Did she need to get lied to on the way to jail by people in positions of power? No. Did she need to be treated like an animal once in the system? FUCK NO

Is Chemda gonna be scared everytime she sees a cop car or a person in police uniform like I am? Probably... That is fucked up, I'm sorry.. It just is....
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Pintman, why are you thinking we'll forget that the cops said she WASN'T under arrest by saying that a cop doesn't have to SAY when someone's under arrest?

You gettin' tricky?
It would have been nice if they did, I guess. But, again, what difference would that have made? What would Chemda had done differently? How would the outcome have been different? That's a red herring.

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Also, what do you mean the court wouldn't have a person's new address? Somehow they keep finding us for jury duty.

C'mon now...
Because jurors are selected (varies from state to state) from voter rolls, tax records, driver license records, and so forth. Not from lists of defendants with outstanding warrants. You C'mon now!
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It would have been nice if they did, I guess. .
it would have been nice, huh? you guess? mhm. for the people paid by your taxes, that are bound to serve and protect you, to inform you you're being arrested while they send you through the process of being arrested?

you have rights when you're being arrested. they wanted to delay her opportunity to "do something" long enough to get her to sign it away.

THEIR ARREST TACTICS ARE BUILT TO BYPASS RIGHTS. but, it would have been /nice/, you guess.

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