2742: Vice

[Mermaid]

Originally Posted by Keith

My white privilege told me what foods are unhealthy? Alright.

Your white privilege gave you access to information about health and the time read and think about it.

Sorry you can't imagine a world where there are people with different experiences than you.

[Keith]

All the nutrition study I had the privilege and time for...

I know it’s the new word of the now, and I’m fully on board, but Jesus.

[Mermaid]

Originally Posted by Keith

All the nutrition study I had the privilege and time for...

I know it’s the new word of the now, and I’m fully on board, but Jesus.

Yeah, cause everyone gets the same education. Every gets the same access. Everyone can do all things, equally. Just work hard. Bootstrap. Yada Yada.

I mean I get it.. "man doesn't fully grasp the extent of his privilege" ain't exactly a new thing...but Jesus.

[Enunciated Piffle]

Originally Posted by Mermaid

Just ugh to this whole episode tbh.

Disagree.

I do agree that a persons financial situation affects their decisions. I think it's just that though - being poor as opposed to it being racial. If you're homeless and waiting in line at a food bank, smoking a cigarette for a brief sense of relief is a quick fix. It's not like you're going to the gym and reevaluating life decisions.

[Mermaid]

Originally Posted by Enunciated Piffle

Disagree.

I do agree that a persons financial situation affects their decisions. I think it's just that though - being poor as opposed to it being racial. If you're homeless and waiting in line at a food bank, smoking a cigarette for a brief sense of relief is a quick fix. It's not like you're going to the gym and reevaluating life decisions.

Poverty and race are highly interconnected in the US. IMO its disingenuous to speak about poverty as a separate issue. Expecially when discussing why people are poor, what can be done about it, mental health of people living in poverty, and upward mobility.

Also because when it is separated the focus is always on white poverty. (And yes, there are differences in how poverty affects different races)

[Enunciated Piffle]

Agreed.

Mermaid. Are you a sociology student?

[Mermaid]

Originally Posted by Enunciated Piffle

Agreed.

Mermaid. Are you a sociology student?

Nope. Biomedical sciences with neuroscience research focus. (doctoral program)

[Enunciated Piffle]

Oo0oO. Very cool.

You ever read Carl Hart's High Price? I'm an ex addict. It's a bit hard to listen to non-addicts talk about choice. I mean, once your reward system is comprised; it's pretty hard to make the right choice - not be an idiot.

[astrokahn]

While I dont disagree about poor and uneducated going together, I still don't buy it for the majority of American stupidity.

Ive tried to figure this out soooooo much after leaving the south. My family is all regular middle class people who live in SC and are either highly educated or just super fucken smart, and they still have these ignorant blind spots. So for them it isn't educational or money related at all. It's a culture of "healthy is tree hugging gay shit." Meat is for strong men yadda yadda. Don't pussify my food.

I live in Texas now and I work in construction. Again, mostly white middle class people, educational levels vary although everyone in my company is put through electrical school as part of our work. But they're all reaaaal Texasy and they look at healthy food like it's stupid or weird. It's a cultural thing where ANYTHING different or new is pushed away. It is so weird.

I found this in New Hampshire as well as various places across the country while traveling. Without exception, where there is isolation, there is ignorance. I know I'm in the boonies when they don't know what soy milk is.

[astrokahn]

Let's not forget the human powers of denial. Most people do not want to change their behavior for any reason. Remember that guy in SuperSize Me who was downing a gallon of Diet Coke WHILE HE WAS IN GASTRIC BYPASS SURGERY