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Old 10-30-2017, 01:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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And you can use Amazon for healthy goods that don't need to be kept cold like black beans, tofu, almonds, whole pasta, coconut milk....
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That urban food desert thing is really freaky...farming may not be practical for people in that situation, or they are just overwhelmed learning how to do it, but more and more people are getting into urban farming...it takes some time to get results though. Amazon.com does deliver things like rice, cous cous, canned vegetables, which isn't perfect but healthier than what I imagine they'd have at a liquor store...
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And you can use Amazon for healthy goods that don't need to be kept cold like black beans, tofu, almonds, whole pasta, coconut milk....
Ha we thought the same thing.
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Old 10-30-2017, 01:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Lots of those things are pretty good.
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I want to note that in the aforementioned thread (titled "Vice") Keith was who brought up *white* privilege in relation to food. Probably a Freudian slip.

I had just said privilege until that point.

Also, there are major health disparities between races due to differences in access information, food and healthcare.

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There are also health and obesity disparities between geographic locations (the North and South/Midwest)

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And you can use Amazon for healthy goods that don't need to be kept cold like black beans, tofu, almonds, whole pasta, coconut milk....
Amazon only works if you have a computer and internet. I'm talking about the poor who are at a nutritional disadvantage.

Also, consider generations of folks grow up eating poorly due to low income or nutritional food scarcity and the problem perpetuates.

This is really a complicated issue with a lot of issues that are different depending on where you live how much money you have and what your parents learned about what food is good. To some people just having any food is all they can think about now is this food is good for me, It's all good even if your mac n' cheese has florescent orange powder for cheese. I wonder if that what Trump uses for tanning powder...
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Old 10-30-2017, 03:27 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Notice how this income map looks mighty similar...

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The first step is the will to change for the better.
Nothing is easy. But you can improve you diet even as a poor person. I think most people have smart phones now. That's enough for Amazon. Where do all those rural people watch their porn? Some kind of internet device.
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We have to take into account different perceptions of poor/low income.

I've had someone tell me they grew up poor, lived on a farm and their daddy raised and sold cattle for a living. Oh and she rode horses for fun....that means they owned land, owned a business, and had enough discretionary income to own and care for horses.

I've also heard people say they grew up poor but they had four-wheelers and owned an unnecessary amount of guns and their dads had free time to go hunting on the weekends.

Some grow up "poor" but never had to wonder if they'd have dinner that night.

These are very different experiences of "poor" than what a lot of people who live in impoverished areas in both the rural south and urban communities have.

No Apia, everyone does not have access to the internet. Everyone does not have enough money for a bank account to be able to buy things online. Everyone is not able to use Amazon. Not everyone has access to a gym or even a safe enough neighborhood to take a walk outside. Heck, everyone doesn't have time to look into all these different methods or think about the nutrition in their food. Some people are just happy to eat. And the cheapest food is the worst for you.

If you haven't eaten all day a Twinkie will always taste good and it will always make you feel better.
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Here you can see people standing in line to buy sugar. This is how I grew up and the level of privilege I'm used to.

Most food items were limited so you could only buy a certain amount of it in a month. Black markets were normal. And all this after your day of work.

What I have now is very good I don't take it for granted. And I can afford a gym but I don't have the time at all, but I get enough exercise outside every day.
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