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Keith 06-19-2020 04:08 PM

3284: How to Podcast w/ Katharine Heller
 
Pedophile Chris DíElia revisited; Juneteenth; OMAT; Fatherís Day, birthdays, and The Malleys; President Trumpís white supremacy not-so-hidden messages; the other side of the story: a past abuser writes in

Guest:
Katharine Heller
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Josh The Jew 06-19-2020 05:43 PM

I know there’s been a lot of talk about the statute of limitations for sex crimes lately. Without weighing in on whether the author of today’s letter admitting to assault should come forward, it’s worth noting that the statute of limitations for sexual assault varies by state. There are states where it can extend based on when the victim discovers or remembers the crime. There are states with no statute of limitations for rape (and depending, this could be deemed rape). It’s not clear cut, and simply being a couple of decades ago doesn’t necessarily mean someone can’t be charged. It also doesn’t necessarily affect whether they can be sued civilly (where they lose money but not freedom).

It’s a state by state question. And - rightly or wrongly - something to consider before coming forward and admitting to a crime.

And on the flip side, it might not be too late for legal remedies for people who suffered sexual assault.

Archimedes_Screw 06-19-2020 05:47 PM

There were 88 Facebook ads. The 8th letter is H. So 88=H H or Heil Hitler. Itís half of the number 1488. 14 being the Fourteen Words, is a reference to the fourteen-word slogan "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children,"
There are no more dogwhistles now.

Keith 06-19-2020 07:04 PM

What I also noticed in the Officer Karen McMuffin audio is that as she's crying as dispatch is trying to reach out about real problems going on live!

Josh The Jew 06-19-2020 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith (Post 883995)
What I also noticed in the Officer Karen McMuffin audio is that as she's crying as dispatch is trying to reach out about real problems going on live!

The only real problem is her contaminated Karen McMuffin and that nobody thanks her any more. Cmon Keith.

Keith 06-19-2020 07:09 PM

I bet if you saw her, a random police officer, and you said, "Thank you," that she's the kind of asshole that says, "You're welcome."

Apia resurrected 06-20-2020 04:40 AM

I would advise against a public statement according the moleststion. This would lead to lots of speculation among the community and likely out the victim.

I liked Keith's advice way more.

jesikat 06-20-2020 10:34 AM

Keith: do you think if you lived in another country and were hearing all the news going on in the US, would you legally have to ďXĒ the United States on your globe?

Apia resurrected 06-20-2020 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jesikat (Post 883999)
Keith: do you think if you lived in another country and were hearing all the news going on in the US, would you legally have to ďXĒ the United States on your globe?

I think this is what we partly did.
New York was super fun and we have seen lots of the US in the past but now it seems insane.

brothervlad 06-21-2020 07:49 AM

Karen McMuffin
 
Great name first off! Lol. My friend mentioned she said she was sleep deprived and up for days which can lead to irrational emotional breakdowns and other major issues. As someone with autism and low blood sugar issues, I can become very manic and paranoid as well at times I havent eaten in a while and can be irrationally emotional, usually I can get into fights about my opinions online and rant about how stupid society and religion is and piss a lot of people off, i think mcmuffins problem was filming her meltdown and putting online, out of context for everyone to misread as her being a crazy jerk. I can understand her paranoid sentiment at the moment of her being in a state of meltdown, but to put sed paranoid sentiment out publicly in such a time in the world, was a poorly thought out action.

Rufio 06-21-2020 09:41 AM

Cadaver Dogs
 
The mystery of the holes at the Malley farm has been part of the KATG lore from the very beginning but with everything thatís come out recently thereís almost no way that there wasnít some nefarious purpose behind them. We need to set up a go fund me to hire someone to come on to the property with cadaver dogs and find out what was really going on. I swear, this whole father Malley saga is just one step away from being a full on murder mystery docu-series on Netflix.

Oh and yíall would need a film crew to record the dogs finding all the bodies.

Keith 06-21-2020 11:22 AM

Brothervlad: She was up for a couple of days?

Maybe her dog died too.

Yes, the problem MIGHT be that she videotaped it and posted it. ;)

spkheller 06-21-2020 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apia resurrected (Post 883998)
I would advise against a public statement according the moleststion. This would lead to lots of speculation among the community and likely out the victim.

I liked Keith's advice way more.

I will say I go back and forth about this! It's complicated. I just wish more people took personal responsibility, but I hear you. Thx for listening

Scorpion 06-21-2020 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufio (Post 884006)
The mystery of the holes at the Malley farm has been part of the KATG lore from the very beginning but with everything thatís come out recently thereís almost no way that there wasnít some nefarious purpose behind them. We need to set up a go fund me to hire someone to come on to the property with cadaver dogs and find out what was really going on. I swear, this whole father Malley saga is just one step away from being a full on murder mystery docu-series on Netflix.

Oh and yíall would need a film crew to record the dogs finding all the bodies.

That is probably where family cats went. You can't mock the cat in its presence but you can bury it in the back yard after making the kids dig the grave.

Scorpion 06-21-2020 06:14 PM

She's back!
 
Always nice hearing Katharine Heller on the show. She has such a great laugh and fits so nicely into the show, very natural.

Piscean 06-23-2020 03:48 PM

Concerning the 10pm TXT from Mother Malley to Keith about missing Father's Day. Did she really send it, or did FM send from her phone?

The Girl 06-23-2020 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piscean (Post 884037)
Concerning the 10pm TXT from Mother Malley to Keith about missing Father's Day. Did she really send it, or did FM send from her phone?


Oooooh didnít think of that!!! Good question!!


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littlp 06-24-2020 07:16 AM

So the abuser-talk to a therapist first before going forward with anything. People react differently to trauma. The victim might remember or his brain might have buried it to protect him. He might be in denial, he might not be. You just never know how someone is going to react. And if you do a public statement-thatís cause rampant speculation and god forbid if someone guesses what happened. As great as it is that you are admitted that you fucked up wnd seem self-aware that you donít want to make it about you-you need to wait for him to say something, if he ever does. And go to therapy to work through what you did. Youíll be able to provide them with more information than you can to a podcast and they can hopefully lead you in the right direction. And feel free to shop around for therapists. If you get one who just wants to harp on you for what you did versus helping you through it, or you arenít comfortable, find another one. There are many online options as well.


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Britt 06-25-2020 06:53 PM

Literally finally stopped being lazy and made a forum account just to reply about a few things in the abuser letter.

I wanted to say as a therapist, the mandated reporting(have worked in two different states now and has been valid across both) is for child abuse, active/intent/plan suicidal ideation, and homicidal ideation. Like you seriously have to have a plan with those two, or we have to really really sick where we donít think you can consent. That second one is real iffy, unless you have a therapist who is inexperienced and afraid to ask the hard questions. Then get a different therapist because, I donít know, itís our job to ask the hard questions? As far as child abuse it has to be to someone who is a child. Aka the child is/could be in danger. If that person is an adult it doesnít qualify. If whatever the child protective services have already been involved for this situation, it also doesnít qualify. So yes, therapy therapy therapy.

On another side as someone who has been sexually abused multiple times by multiple people(I became a therapist for a reason and have been through lots of therapy for a reason) it was incredibly helpful for me when it was acknowledged by my first (teenage years) abuser. He was a boyfriend and even just him acknowledging ďyeah I knew you werenít comfortable with itĒ was a floodgate to me starting to no longer blame myself for things I thought I was at fault in because I didnít know how to stop it when ďnoĒ didnít work and I wasnít violent towards him, continued the relationship for a year, and while wasnít really consensual blamed myself for.... 10 or so years? I couldnít really take my own blame out of it until that happened, but( and a heavy but here) that was just me and where I was at in my healing. I think just a general apology and then if he pushes it then the conversation gets open. But also therapy, because otherwise it could quickly turn into all about the abusers guilt and not the survivorís pain. Or go to a therapist together! I do family work, am trained in it, I would totally do a session about that if it was beneficial to both people.


That was significantly longer than intended. My bad.


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