3306: [Relationships] w/ Joe DeVito
 

COVID-19 and Joe’s relationship tournament; Joe Biden announces his running mate: CA Sen. Kamala Harris; upcoming presidential debates; mail-in ballots

Guest:
Joe Devito
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Thoroughly enjoyed the affable incel episode. He was such a good sport about it lol

She got a 3 in smart! Fucking dead lol

Avoid the apppocalypse
 

Joe and The Gootz must never meet 😳

Is there any planet where Gootz can grow up and be... what’s the word... a Joe?

I guess I mean “better.”

Yes, with some serious and miraculous places brain injury.

Kamala Harris seems to be smart, full of energy and non senile to me.
That’s pretty good.

I couldn't tell if Joe was IN on the joke or just knew that everyone was laughing at him. Either way I appreciate his attitude. Hilarious episode.

When he said making a list of things that were important to him I thought "yeah, that's smart" imagining it was things like marriage, kids, goals, things you like doing for fun. But no, it was are you within 10 years of my age and are you hot. And then making it a competition, oh my.

At least he is tying to improve?

Before I met Mr. Apia I also made a list what I wanted in a partner.

As far as I remember that was on:

1. about my age 5 years + or -

2. available and interested to be in a relationship

3. not a regular smoker of cigarettes

4. must like his job at least ok. I don’t care what the job is. Just don’t complain every day to me without changing anything.

5. lives close to me

6. no racists, homophobes etc.



It worked for me to figure out what I want and what really don’t.

From what I hear dating sites are full of guys who are 'looking for a real relationship' now...well yeah, being single is only fun when you can go out and meet new people all of the time, not so much fun when you're stuck at home washing all your own dishes :D

Most these 'reformed' bachelor types will revert back the minute this COVID thing clears up...:rolleyes:

My boyfriend was listening with me, and was like, "who's this guy? Why are they Gootzing him?"

My god this episode. Is this real life? Is this Christmas?

I have been involved in the going-on-a-date-without-the-other-person-knowing-its-a-date thing before, on both sides. So dumb. Joe needs to come out and tell her how he really feels about her, that technically she did win the tourney, but she orders food annoying so he'll be going to the runner up unless she can work with him on that.

I get it.
Sadly you have the two party system and that’s how it goes.

A PSA from Germany:

Joe Biden isn’t my favorite choice either.
But he is an earth angel and incredibly qualified compared to Trump. Kamala is smart and qualified anyway.

Please vote for them and don’t skip the election because it’s not your ideal team.

It's so so so hard this time around. I voted for Hillary in 2016 even though I wasn't a fan of her. But this Biden/Harris ticket is just a giant "fuck you" to anyone truly hoping for change. I feel like any way you slice it we're fucked. I've always been one to try to encourage people to vote even when we are choosing between a giant douche and a turd sandwich... but it feels so much harder this time. I feel like a vote for Biden is a resignation of any chance of hope or opportunity to change this fucked up system that we are forced into. Nobody in this election has the best interest of the American people in mind. Trump's election made me hopeless for our system and now Biden and Harris at the forefront of the ticket solidifies the DNC will do what the DNC wants to do regardless of what the American people truly want. I'm at the point where I don't even feel like I should participate in this system that is everything that's wrong with this country.

Not saying I won't vote... I'm just still grappling with it. I don't know what I'm going to do and it's never been that way for me.

Maybe I am missing something here, but more voters voted for Biden than the other candidates? Isn't that what the American people truly want? If the American people truly wanted Warren or Sanders, wouldn't they have voted for them?

I'm not sure how much you know already about how it works so forgive me if I'm giving you info you already know. The way that our political process is set up, basically the DNC pushes the candidate that they want for whatever reasons they want them (which usually revolves around who's putting the most money in who's pockets). The person who wins the nomination is not necessarily the person who got the most individual votes, instead it's whoever wins the most delegate votes. Delegate votes often don't align with the actual number of individual people that voted for a particular candidate in any given area because of the way they are split up. I truly believe that if our system was actually fair, Bernie would have been the nominee. Even more than in 2016 there was an overwhelming amount of support for Bernie. But that isn't enough in American politics.

There are many obstacles for any candidate that's not the candidate the DNC wants. The caucus in 2016, for example, was a complete mess. Many people did not get a chance to vote even though they were entitled to because of hours long wait times, deadlines, etc. I personally wasn't able to vote because by the time I was able to get into the room that I was meant to vote in, the deadline to collect votes had already ended. There were still hundreds of people who hadn't even made it into the building yet when I left defeated. And I know this is just one example of one experience, but it seemed to me that almost everyone I spoke to there who was willing to talk about it was there to vote for Bernie, and I heard a lot of similar experiences for other people. Thankfully many states changed that system for this election but that's just one of many problems with the way voting works in this country.

Early polls showed an overwhelming amount of support for Bernie, but because the Clintons have been and are in the DNC's pockets, it was basically doomed from the start that Bernie voters wouldn't have their voices heard and Hillary would be the candidate despite what the majority of people truly wanted

There has also been evidence in poorer neighborhoods or neighborhoods with a higher number of minorities that voters have been wrongly turned away for supposed voter registration issues, address issues, etc. and that polling places in more densely populated but less well-off neighborhoods are often vastly understaffed and unsupported.

Another example, the last debate that Bernie insisted on having even though Joe didn't want to, tickets to that debate were like $2,000 a pop. The average donation that Bernie Sanders gets is $27. Do you really think that anyone there was there to support Bernie? They only let rich people in who are willing to spend $2,000 to attend a live debate. Every step of our current system is built to get in the way of what is best for the country and instead we are stuck with what's best for the DNC.

All of this to say, just because the narrative is that "Joe Biden is what the people want", the votes that you're being shown are not an accurate representation of the country as a whole.

That is why I am saying I don't want to participate anymore. The DNC forced Joe Biden down our throats in the same way they forced Hillary down our throats and I don't feel like being complacent in that anymore.

I could go on and on but these are the things that come to mind immediately.

"What a strange, strange world we live in
Where the good are damned and the wicked forgiven
What a strange, strange world we live in
Those who don't have lose, those who've got get given
More, more, more, more"

I can't think of something I'd like to see more than those two interacting. I think it would go from "Young Girls are Hot, RIGHT?" to "I'm so lonely, bro" in about 10 minutes

You aren’t being an honest debater. You threw out a lot of random arguments to sidetrack the argument. If Biden got more votes in the primary than others, how is that not the will of the people?

I'm sorry that you take my message as me not being an honest debater. My goal wasn't to sidetrack the conversation, I was trying to provide examples to answer your question on how if Biden got the most delegate votes then how is that not the will of the people. It's not that simple because of how it's set up. I don't have a political science degree and I didn't take the time to cite sources, just tried to explain the situation from the way I see it as a citizen who participates in the election since you specifically asked me about it. I tried to explain that Biden getting more votes in the primary has to do with how many delegates were assigned to him in any given area. I didn't go into great detail because I didn't want to assume anyone's baseline knowledge of the situation so I didn't go into the nitty gritty of the way delegates work vs. individual votes. But I am happy to gather some sources for you and post them later when I'm not at work.

Holy crap with Joe! I’m f$&king exhausted with this interview. You couldn’t shake a straight answer out of this guy if you put him in the paint shaker at Lowe’s. Bring on Bianca, LW will be lit.

Really Joe, really?
 

I find Joe very frustrating to listen too, his bull shit go to "look who your talking to!" is tired, old, passive bullshit that is supposed to somehow excuse his shit bird attitude.

The only thing that would make this worse is if Joe and Billy were on the same show together. I can't even with these guests who can't be straight and answer a question. Honestly Joe and Billy would be best just telling jokes and stop talking about themselves because they are only able to tell you half the story and expect you to just buy into the crap they have spent their lives selling themselves.

I understand how delegation voting works. The delegates system is a different argument from my question regarding the will of the American people. If we took away delegates and the primaries were a simple popular vote, Biden still wins. My point is very specifically targetted at your assertion that the American people don't want Biden.

It is disheartening that you are disregarding the voices of Americans who cared enough to show up to the ballots and vote in the Democratic primaries who didn't vote in a way that you agree with.

I don't think that overall the American people want Biden. I think there are a multitude of factors that skew the votes. The system itself is broken and therefore does not necessarily represent the will of the American people. That is why I mentioned the issues like voter suppression, the DNC favoring one candidate over the rest, and the push for the candidate to be who the DNC wants the candidate to be. I think that the narrative that was pushed to everyone is that Joe Biden would be the best candidate. Many many people support him simply because of his connection to Obama. Many many more people support him simply because he's "not Trump." I don't know of a ton of people who are thrilled for Joe Biden to be the candidate other than people wanting to get in on the action. Andrew Yang dropped out of the race in part because Biden indicated that he would consider him as VP and other candidates dropped out when it was clear it was between Bernie, Biden and Buttigieg. When candidates dropped out and immediately endorsed Joe Biden, people who were rooting for said candidate simply turn to Team Biden because their candidate told them to. There is no one answer to your question and you're taking that as me trying to divert the conversation. I'm not. It is complicated and convoluted and there are so many factors at play. So all I'm saying is just because Biden won doesn't mean he is what the majority of Americans want. It's not so cut and dry as that. Look at Trump. The majority of Americans did not want Trump to be our president and look where we are anyway.

I find it disheartening that you believe people who didn't necessarily have their votes counted or were unable to vote for a plethora of reasons just don't "care enough to show up." That's an extremely privileged point of view. Biden supporters will be just fine despite my opinion.

Bingo
 

Do we get bingo mark when Keith accidentally uses name “Cat”?

I'm sure Joe is on some lists, too.

Not a "guys i'd pair up with" bracket like his, but a list nonetheless.

When I did my list, I wasn’t choosing between 12 men or so.
I did my list for myself, to learn better what was important to me and what was not.
I can’t imagine even knowing several potential partners. Currently I know exactly 0 people who could be a partner for me if I wasn’t with Mr. Apia.

Of course I don’t go out several days a week and meet countless new people.
But still, I can’t imagine knowing several people I would want to date and who are also available. Was every single woman he knows on that list?

To be fair, being in relationships, short and long term also helps pare that list down too. Things that are dealbreakers or seem stupid like "has complicated food orders" might sound unimportant, but if you find it annoying, it's annoying! I'll tell ya, in the future, I'll be asking about peoples allergies/food allergies in the beginning. Oy vay.

My most remarkable deal breaker was: has terrible taste in music.

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Last time Joe was on I thought he seemed quite a catch, I am saddened to find out, as a married women, I would score a one on the potential girlfriend scale.

It's a shame because I currently have three couches and two chairs so have ample furniture to fill his apartment.