503: Down to Earth

[tga]

Chemda's imitation of Avril was too funny.

Patrice - we do have Malibu and Smirnoff Ice London!!

[phooey]

Originally Posted by maoglone

More punk than you would think... Don't forget that the Sex Pistols were a producer/manager creation to "shake up" the state of music, that the Ramones (so far as I can recall) were always on a major label, that all the interesting "punk" bands at that time were on major labels, and that "punk" itself was more or less created to "die" out somewhat quickly.

You're talking about the rejection of society through identifying with a specific, well-known genre of style. Someone called it punk. Nothing more than a name... That's what your friends did (mine, too)--they rejected society's norm. They weren't really in line with what the Sex Pistols or any of the other "punk" legends actually believed, which is to say, "I'm making a fairly decent living off of this leather jacket thing" (Which Green Day and Blink 182 and [insert pop-punk crap band name here] is doing right now, too). Your friends (and mine) were just identifying with that word ("punk") and inventing their own meaning for it. Which is what young people do, and have done, throughout history. See the youth into Jazz in the 30's and 40's. The greasers in the 50's and 60's... late 60's hippies. Cokehead disco freaks in the 70's.

This "new wave of punk" thing? Everyone who was into punk before someone else is going to call the next group a bunch of posers. Which they are, but then, so was I, pretty much. I didn't know that at the time, of course. But it meant something to me, you know? It means something to them, too. It's all about asserting your self-identity and getting to decide how you're going to do that.

Wow. I sound like I'm old and washed-up. Maybe I am. *shrug face*

I understand where you are coming from... I always thought that it was funny that someone with a mohawk would want to come off as wanting to look like he didn't cared what you thought about him/her... but the truty is.. he/she wanted to be noticed... I mean.. it takes effort and time to get your hair to stand up like that all day long!

it's just that I have two boys that like to borrow my old music.. some live black flag and circle jerks and dead kennedys and wear old concert t shirts...you know? but then again, I was in college during the punk years and I had money so I never called myself punk either.

sort of like that line "I saw a deadhead sticker on a caddilac, you can never look back"

but I still love the Clash!

[phooey]

oh and one more thing


Rosie O'Donnell reminds me of Jabba the Hut...

http://www.rosie.com/blog/2007/05/23/may-23/

[bpinsky33]

I would rather have a down syndrome kid read me The Cat in the Hat for 18 hours straight than read some of Roise's poetry.

[Tech007]

Originally Posted by maoglone

You're talking about the rejection of society through identifying with a specific, well-known genre of style. Someone called it punk. Nothing more than a name...

This "new wave of punk" thing? Everyone who was into punk before someone else is going to call the next group a bunch of posers.

Wow. I sound like I'm old and washed-up. Maybe I am. *shrug face*

I like that explanation of punk in this context. I'm not comparing Avril pop stuff to Sex Pistols but just pointing out that in her crowd in our country in her little town she's the girl who is gonna be doing the spitting, wearing weird clothes and just generally pissing off the old farts. That image helps sell records to tweens and make for great marketing in this over-sweetened Spears/Aguilera/Ashley+Kate world.

Avril first got on a huge stage here in Ottawa after winning a song writing contest. Shania Twain had her up on-stage to play that original song - less than 2 years later she played the same room on national TV as a super star. I think that in Canada, or anywhere else, that counts as major great work.

Great voice, song-writing skills and good looks all prove once again Canadian Girls Kick Ass

And I think that's who she really is...that is all...can we talk about Celine now?

[Paws]

Originally Posted by Tech007

...can we talk about Celine now?

NO! Oh god NO!!

[bithead]

Originally Posted by Paws

NO! Oh god NO!!

Celine is the exception to the general rule that I outlined at the beginning of this thread...

[dori]

Am I the only one who doesnt get the Celiene hate?
I love her :S:S

[Cubby]

I learned from the South Park movie that Canada is also ashamed of Bryan Adams. Is this true, canucks?

[Juline]

Originally Posted by armenta

Punk is a band like Primus. So unconventional and iconoclastic as to not be definable.

I saw Primus open for Faith No More, their Frizzle Fry and Real Thing tours, in a tiny club in SF. That was fun .