524: Doing it to Yourself

[bithead]

Originally Posted by be leaves

ROFL

"sam finally tries green eggs and ham and he LIIIKES IT!"

i'm at work and i didn't realize i was actually laughing out loud... loudly.


this show is classic.

I recommend adding that line to your signature...

[be leaves]

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

"I can understand killing your wife, but how can you kill your own child?" [...] this really rubbed me the wrong way. 20% of women who die while pregnant are murdered.

not that i'm condoning any violence of any kind, but killing a pregnant woman and killing both your wife and your son who's SEVEN are two completely different things... when a woman is pregnant and you kill her.. your kid dies automatically.. it's a little different when you kill your son AFTER you killed your wife... especially when the kid is old enough for you two to have developed a relationship... my point is that you should be able to understand the feeling they were trying to express "i've wanted to kill a bitch before.. but my own kid?!" it's not like any of them would ever murder anyone... it's a statement about the capabilities of his own imagination... you brought all the hostility to it yourself.

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

So fine, laugh at people who get pissed off about rape jokes. It's funny to be a woman in this world and have people laugh off seriously violent acts like they're no big deal. If you've never been violated or sexually assaulted, then you can just shut the fuck up about it.

people have no right to demand that others not tell rape jokes... get pissed and ignore the humor of it all you want.. but keep it to yourself.

and quit your self-righteous bullshit sexism.. acting like women are the only ones that get raped. men are raped EVERY DAY in prisons ALL OVER THE WORLD. there's humor to be found in everything and if you're able to laugh at it you're LUCKY.

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

There is no such thing as an overreaction to being raped, and no man should be able to explain away a MURDER by claiming "the bitch had it coming."

so you're saying it's okay if a woman explains it this way after murdering a man?
i agree that rape is awful and murder is awful... but you're blurring the lines between what was said on the show and what you believe to be the beliefs of the general population.

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

Right now I seriously hate Keith.

no you don't, you hate ignorant right wing hacks and the awful shit that happens in this world every day.

[ababuu]

Patrice O'neal on rape jokes:


Also, on Keith saying that he can't get in trouble for what's being posted in the forums: I remember Slashdot getting in legal trouble because of an anonymous comment posted on their site. I think they eventually removed the comment to not face further legal action. It might have only been a cease and desist and we all know vagina boy can't afford that (the iphone's coming out in 2 days).

Oh yeah and IANAL.

[Blitzgal]

Originally Posted by be leaves

people have no right to demand that others not tell rape jokes... get pissed and ignore the humor of it all you want.. but keep it to yourself.

and quit your self-righteous bullshit sexism.. acting like women are the only ones that get raped. men are raped EVERY DAY in prisons ALL OVER THE WORLD. there's humor to be found in everything and if you're able to laugh at it you're LUCKY.

If I have no right to "demand" that others not tell rape jokes, you have no right to tell me to keep it to myself. *I know perfectly well I'm not going to stop people from making the jokes, but I have the same right to point out the asshattery as I see it.

And trying to deflect the issue by pointing out that men get raped too is disingenuous. I never claimed that women are the only ones who get raped.

I guess I'm not lucky. I'm not able to laugh about mine.

[jwdd27]

Originally Posted by be leaves

people have no right to demand that others not tell rape jokes... get pissed and ignore the humor of it all you want.. but keep it to yourself.

That makes no fucking sense, be leaves. If something annoys or upsets you, you SPEAK OUT against it.

Everybody has the right to make their opinion known, even jerks like you.

[be leaves]

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

And trying to deflect the issue by pointing out that men get raped too is disingenuous. I never claimed that women are the only ones who get raped.

i'm not deflecting or being disingenuous. you implied that women were the only ones who get raped when you said "It's funny to be a woman in this world and have people laugh off seriously violent acts like they're no big deal."
...unless you were implying that only woman are even capable of realizing that violent acts are a big deal... but i gave you enough credit to assume you didn't mean that.

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

I guess I'm not lucky. I'm not able to laugh about mine.

exactly.

you're now an adult who should know better than to take out your frustrations with the world on a comedian who's only trying to be honest and entertain you.

[Gunderling]

Originally Posted by be leaves

just because you were a victim doesn't mean you should still be playing the role of one.

HA! Blitzgal playing the role of a victim. That's a good one.

[jwdd27]

Originally Posted by be leaves

you need to get over yourself though. just because you were a victim doesn't mean you should still be playing the role of one.

Wow.

Are you a rape counsellor or something?

"Just get over it, it was years ago..."

What great advice.

So, be leaves, how long do you recommend a woman should be affected by a rape for?

You should shut up.

[Juline]

Originally Posted by Blitzgal

If I have no right to "demand" that others not tell rape jokes, you have no right to tell me to keep it to myself. *I know perfectly well I'm not going to stop people from making the jokes, but I have the same right to point out the asshattery as I see it.

And trying to deflect the issue by pointing out that men get raped too is disingenuous. I never claimed that women are the only ones who get raped.

I guess I'm not lucky. I'm not able to laugh about mine.

Here, here. I'm not able to laugh about mine either. But that doesn't mean I'm playing any role as victim.

[panicBoy]

Can we a get a big "TOWANDA!" right about now? This is all getting a bit thick n' heady right now.