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But that's my point, MKL. There IS no magical free market and I would argue that such a pure thing would never exist in the actual world. So that's where you end up in capitalist systems with government/private companies giving each other hand jobs. No philosphical system will ever exist in its purest form with practical application. Everything gets muddy once you take it out of theory and put it into practice.
Blackwater's overbearing military presence isn't a symptom of government doing what government is *supposed* to be doing. Corporate cronyism is just one way in which the magical "free market" gets muddied once it hits the street.
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I think that even if our government vanished today, something else would come around to take its place, and it wouldn't be a free market. There will always be corruption and bureaucratic bloat. Ian lives in a dream world. He has no practical solutions. Our process of checks and balances is a good thing but it's been eroded under our current administration. |
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I would agree with you. However, I enjoy that some people have idealistic goals and dreams. That way at least we can start moving closer to them, instead of just giving up. I don't agree government could or should go away, but I think it needs to be smaller, so I can at least partially agree with Ians way of thinking. His solutions aren't practical, but hopefully it gets people thinking. |
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however, i think that adopting some more socialism is more practical then his radical libertarianism there can never be true free markets because certain goods and services will be performed LESS efficiently (if at all) if they existed under a "true" free market. it just can't work its not at all realistic. |
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However, there are obviosuly people out there who share your ideas, so keep promoting them. I think the more practical solution for me is not Ians radical views, but they are closer to that than the view of providing more socialist programs. I don't think we are going to agree, our priorities for the small things are just too different. Thats the great thing about Free Talk Live, anyone can call in. Be prepared to defend your ideas, because FTL won't let you get away with anything without backup data and rational, but at least they give you time to talk. |
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Blackwater, KBR, DEH, and all those contractors in Iraq have an overbearing presence. I was on a PSD for a few months and we were replaced by a team of contractors, they did the exact same thing we did, the only difference was they got better weapons and got paid about 9 times as much as we do.
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Can't blame 'em for going to the higher paid jobs, hell, they're quite elite. Minimum four years in US Military Special Forces or equivalent.
By the way Gunner, I'm not sure if you saw my above post, but I'll add to it; I appreciate your service, you are doing the job of a real man, hopefully I'll be able to join you in a couple years, ... not the actual you, as the chances of that are slim, but the figurative you... the royal you... speaking of the US Military. But to add to earlier, if you send me or others your address once you get deployed, I'll be happy to send some stuff to you and your unit. I help run the annual drive for our school that goes out to those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, I could probably swing it so that at least some of the total collection gets to you, if you're interested... Regards, Alex |
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