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Old 10-04-2007, 08:02 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I don't think I'd want to be sick in a hospital where someone is being forced to work. Then again, I don't think I'd want to eat a McDonalds if someone is being forced to work there either...I've seen some of the people that choose to work there. Scary!
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:05 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Nope. Hospitals overcharge poor people (unless they give fake names), screw them out of money with overpriced tests, give them unnecessary procedures to make more money....etc etc.
McDonalds serves people shitty food at a low cost. Poor people can afford McDonalds but not hospitals.
I'm not sure which one is worse. Being poor and screwed out of money by hospitals with horrible service, or being poor and being screwed by getting low quality food at McDonalds. At least at McDonalds you can order off of the dollar menu.

OK, next time you are in a car wreck, go to McDonalds. Shhheeeeshhhhh.
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:16 PM   #53 (permalink)
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You can't see the potential societal benefits
Wow. Read up on the Socialism that you prescribe. Socialism has failed time and time again. Does every American have to go down the road of the Soviets to get it through your heads?

Read a book, read a book...

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Old 10-04-2007, 08:18 PM   #54 (permalink)
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OK, next time you are in a car wreck, go to McDonalds. Shhheeeeshhhhh.
Mmmmm McNuggets.
Only if you promise to go to a hospital the next time you are hungry and only have a dollar.

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Old 10-04-2007, 08:29 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Wow. Read up on the Socialism that you prescribe. Socialism has failed time and time again. Does every American have to go down the road of the Soviets to get it through your heads?

Read a book, read a book...
Wow. Read the thread before you decide to comment.

Read the thread, read the thread...
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:42 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Wow. Read the thread before you decide to comment.

Read the thread, read the thread...
I commented before you, I've read the thread. Are you saying you're not a socialist / commie?
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:44 PM   #57 (permalink)
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True -- not all slaves were out picking cotton, some got to clean in the mastah's house and some even got to serve dinner!
everybody serves get it??

masta is picking cotton alongside sambo.

you see how that might change your perspective?

not only that 100 to 1 you are caucasian?? so where was all the equality and freedom talk of our country's forefathers when they imported Africans??

did they do that to "liberate" them as well?

wake up! the same families that brought them over are sending the country's youth to keep themselves rich!

Here is an idea instead of spending $10 Billion a month on the War with Iraq, not to mention the immeasurable value on the lives of our soldiers...Why does the US recompensate the African Americans?

the status quo is not slavery? i challange you to compare the funding schools that are made up of a african american majority to those of majority white schools...

dude, you need to take a humanistic view to world affairs
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I commented before you, I've read the thread. Are you saying you're not a socialist / commie?

Because I see greater potential benefits to society from a hospital than from a McDonalds?
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everybody serves get it??

masta is picking cotton alongside sambo.

you see how that might change your perspective?
Deuce. I think most of us "get" what you are saying. We just don't agree with it. The government getting involved in something tends to make it bureaucratic and inefficient. Masta won't be picking cotton beside sambo. Why? Because a politicians kid will get the plum assignment even with national service. Some congressman's kid will end up doing his national service by being a page in DC smoking cigars and serving coffee in an A/C'd room. A poor black kid from Georgia will end up on the front lines.
Did the mandatory draft in the 60's help race relations?

Currently African Americans use 15% of the Drugs in America, but make up 60% of those arrested for drugs. The government is not the cure for racism.



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" i challange you to compare the funding schools that are made up of a african american majority to those of majority white schools..."
And just to let you know, I think this is unfair. That is why I think the government should not be in the public education business. Give each kid the money and let them go to private school if they want.

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Old 10-04-2007, 09:03 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Hey Deuce!

Yes, I would think some mandatory CIVIL duties might be appropriate (working in hospitals, schools, nursing homes, etc.). However, I feel that required MILITARY service in this country would very likely be abused by our misguided 'leaders.'

P.S. I always liked you on KATG for your entertainment value, but your conduct on the radio with those guys showed you are more than just a funny guy. Way to go, Deuce!
much much much appreciated. that means alot coming from you in light of all our previous political debates.

I know i was stammering..again the connection, the late hour, and the alcoholic beverages had me a bit impaired, however, nothing had me more impaired then the shock that i had from some of the things that flew out of their mouth.

i am a guest on a show that i hadn't really heard but assumed these guys were serious political radio. they were, make no mistake. but comparing military service or civic service (as I advocate) to punitive incarceration thats ridiculous, and then to advocate a society with no government that is equally out there.

Needless to say i was taken aback by that. I am glad to see how k & c picked up on the moments where my surprise was evident. it is an awkward position to find oneself in when the arguement veers into that sort of territory. I didnt want to be a first time guest and insult them and come off like a lunatic but it threw me off guard.

I never advocated only MILITARY service. i am advocating a variety of civic programs that benefit all. comparing that too slavery is absurd

we require our children to go to school is that slavery? i am saying that even a democratic society could stand to benefit from a very socialist idea..

every body chps in to make the country better. and those that don't like it (which would be most) will gain a more intimate connection with those of any other race religion or background because their country's service is their common denominator. maybe people would be more than just superficiallly polite to each other in our society.

it would be a chance for everyone to feel like an american. instead of just the american dream for some. i am not advocating a complete socialist society either. just a better allocation of the resources available to contribute to the "public good" (i.e. needs). this may even lower our taxes and certainly would be using those funds more efficiantly.
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