849: The Pick-Up Artist

[Lanfear]

Originally Posted by Grapist

vid or it didn't happen.

I sure hope my doc doesn't have a hidden camera somewhere - maybe a drawing would help? use your imagination ..

[littlp]

Maybe I'm one of the few women who don't get traumatized by the gyno. I don't like it by any stretch of the imagination. I'm just like, eh, ow, weird feeling air flowing up there, please don't snap the clamp shut. I've had to have 3 pelvic exams in the past month due to my PCOS. My biggest fear is that the clamp is going to shoot out because my vag doesn't like it and every time it feels like it is trying to push the clamp out.

For those who are nervous, dont' go to planned parenthood, at least in the Indianapolis/Bloomington area. I had one in Bloomington talk to my cervix about how nice and pink she was and how much she enjoyed March of the Penguins. I had one in Indianapolis yelling at me because I didnt' tell one of her nurses (who I couldn't tell was a nurse because she was wearing JEANS) that I was having a discharge issue.

[punk'n]

^ I agree about the gyno. It doesn't bother me too bad although I do go ape shit at any other medical appt. I HATE having my blood pressure taken, I practically faint when I have blood drawn, I don't even like that little hammer they whack your knee with. The whole concept of doctors and blood and guts makes me incredibly nervous. Perhaps, since I have to go to the vag doctor more often than I have to go to any other kind of doctor, I just got used to it? I'd be curious if Chemda freaks out at normal doctors too.

Also, I might be kicked off the forums for this but...I think Mystery is hot.
He acts like a douche and if he introduced himself as "Mystery", I would walk away laughing. However, I know I'm in the minority, but those rock star type guys that wear nail polish and eyeliner really do it for me. I think that look is less douchey than a white hat and a pink collared shirt. But I'm just talking first impressions here.

[Grapist]

The flask is awesome, the engraved logo is top notch and it is very solid. Seemed to me it would be a bit flimsy by looking at it, but I was wrong. Buy it!

[The Girl]

Originally Posted by Dex

I think Chemda is a bit quick to judge the PUA material. I've studied a variety of it for an extended period of time. I don't study it anymore because I've gotten to a point where I simply don't need the crutch.

Social skills are skills and some people need practice. Chemda seems to understands people naturally, she is naturally personable and doesn't need to 'practice' getting better at it. So of course, all this would seem a little rediculous.

It's also important to realize that many of these guys that buy this stuff are incredibly hopeless. They need a ton of help, and have very little common sense about this kind of stuff. Thus, they also need a lot of training to get better at it.

Some of the teachers of the material break it down into different stages. This is extremely helpful to these socially akward types that need to practice each stage, and would be overwelmed with trying to learn everything from the start. The reason the phone numbers are so emphasized, is that it's the first stage of an interaction. Approaching is the part that most men find the most difficult and it's the first thing that happens in every interaction. If you can get to a point where you can get a phone number a high % of the time, you can then start mastering the next part of the interaction.

Before my experience with this stuff, I was a complete social retard and I wanted to kill myself. Now, I am much more comfortable with who I am, and people generally like me more and I am much happier.

I wasn't always good at socializing. I was extremely shy as a kid. I had a hard time looking at people let alone talking to them. I am fine now but I worked on it and always will work on getting better.

I get the concept of learning how to socialize. I think it's important for social and business situations. I just think this particular guy is an ass and I think that he does't fit ALL people. What I said on the show is that it's important to pick the right book for the right person. If this one helped you then great.

[Sparrow]

I have a very casual relationship with my gyno. I've been known to crack or joke a two while having a surgical steel medical instrument in my hooha. No biggie.

I did, however, once have a colposcopy. A tiny medieval looking device that just bit off a piece of my cervix. They don't numb you for that mess.

[gumby013]

Originally Posted by Sparrow

I have a very casual relationship with my gyno. I've been known to crack or joke a two while having a surgical steel medical instrument in my hooha. No biggie.

I did, however, once have a colposcopy. A tiny medieval looking device that just bit off a piece of my cervix. They don't numb you for that mess.

That's a biopsy...unless your plumbing is very different from other women.

[JaymztheKing]

Seems to me that the whole point of the books is to provide some shock therapy. If you tell a guy who acts like a lap dog to hot girls to treat her like trash, all that is going to happen is that he will be more confident and not put her on that high of a pedestal. Take a 2 and aim him towards 10 and he'll end up an 8.

Kind of reminds me of one of my favorite lines.

"I think you're cute. And that's a damn shame because I'm WAYYYY out of your league."

[PoorGradStudent]

I think the whole "negs" only working on 9s and 10s is a bit of a misnomer, it only works on DUMB 9s and 10s.

[Jonny Face]

Ive read a lot of the 'pickup' material, and I think a lot of it was misinterpreted by you guys.The 'negs' you read were actually bad examples, negs are not supposed to be insulting, but rather a subtle way of showing non-neediness, i.e that you are not intimidated by her beauty. Really hot girls know they are hot and get hit on constantly, so it's supposed to be a way of setting yourself apart from the crowd.Some negs are also designed to pay her a backhanded compliment.

Another thing people dont realise is that Mystery's method is probably the hardest and most complicated "school" of pickup.I seem to recall Mystery or another 'pua' saying it was as hard to master as a musical instrument.So they are taking total geeks and throwing them right into the deep end with this stuff, which is never going to work.It takes a lot of practice and experimentation, which is why Intern Mike found it so overwhelming.

I find the pickup stuff absolutely fascinating, if you take a PROPER look at some of the material, you have really talented guys who are basically armchair psychologists with no training, but have managed to figure out exactly what attracts women and why.While I dont use any of Mystery's routine's specifically, I've used a lot of the ideas myself (and not just on drunk party chicks, I might add), and they really work.The whole thing has changed my attitude to socialising and self-improvement, and I am a much better and happier person for it.I think the problem is most people just feel the way they are is set in stone...they feel like they are just not attractive to women, or are just unable to talk to women, or they are inept in social situations.The truth is that these things arent set in stone and you CAN change them if you really want to, and that's really what the pickup stuff is all about.

peace, Jon